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Old 04-05-2011, 11:22 AM   #1
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Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

I weaned off Coreg about 3 weeks ago and now I am weaning off of Clonidine o.1mg twice a day. I know this is a small dose but I am extremely sensitive to blood pressure pills.

I am having a very hard time weaning off this Clonidine with very big spikes in BP to 180 systolic. My doc changed me to Benicar 20mg and Inspra 50mg. It seems like these two meds are doing absolutely nothing to help my bp. I am down to 0.5mg per day for the past two days. Did I wean to fast? I started weaning about 5 days ago.

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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

I cant say how quick to wean from clonidine, but you might consider using the coreg (it is a beta and alpha blocker) to cover the rebound hypertension from clonidine withdrawal , and then wean off that last (since it is easier to wean off of than clonidine).

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

I thought it was easier to wean off the clonidine first? Now I know differently. I was reading that the Benicar might take 3 weeks to work, so I guess I will need something else until the Benicar starts to work. I will take a Coreg and see what happens.


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I cant say how quick to wean from clonidine, but you might consider using the coreg (it is a beta and alpha blocker) to cover the rebound hypertension from clonidine withdrawal , and then wean off that last (since it is easier to wean off of than clonidine).

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

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I weaned off Coreg about 3 weeks ago ...
I've been on and off Coreg, Ace Inhibitors, ARBs, Nitro SR, Verapamil, etc., several times over the years; always searching for the perfect combination of meds, with the best results, and with the least interactions and side effects.

I've also noticed that, when I first start taking Coreg, or start taking it again, it seems to raise my blood pressure not lower it. I don't know if this would do the same thing to you?

So... I can feel your frustrations regarding your own struggle for good health and effective, bearable medications.

Currently I am taking 25mg Coreg, bid, for a total of 50mg per day, and I love it! If you don't mind me asking, how much Coreg were you taking, how long were you on it, and why did you stop taking Coreg?
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

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I weaned off Coreg about 3 weeks ago and now I am weaning off of Clonidine o.1mg twice a day. I know this is a small dose but I am extremely sensitive to blood pressure pills.

I am having a very hard time weaning off this Clonidine with very big spikes in BP to 180 systolic. My doc changed me to Benicar 20mg and Inspra 50mg. It seems like these two meds are doing absolutely nothing to help my bp. I am down to 0.5mg per day for the past two days. Did I wean to fast? I started weaning about 5 days ago.

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Thats so funny because I came here to post a post about clonidine and coreg.
I am debating which one to take. I have a prescrip for both of them. I too am very sensitve to any meds and have had nothing but problems with all of them except beta blockers but they seemed to cause me to gain weight after 3 years of being on metoprolol I gained 30 plus pounds. Since i've beenoff I only lost about 8 pounds but now dont want to go back on them for fear of gaining more weight. When i started metoprolol i took 1/4 of a 25 mgs pill. it was not even noticeable when i took it. something to think about anyways. What I am curious about is why did you stop coreg and clonidine? I dont want to take something twice a day but i was on cozaar, hctz, lisinipril and there is nothing else to try but clonidine and coreg...any advice to me? I would be starting at miniscule amounts, like quarters of a quarter, lol, what ever it takes...if I go too fast i get side effects and stop taking them. last night my bp was 174 over 117. I ended up taking 10 mgs of propranolol (inderal) also a beta blocker that works within half an hour to bring it down and it has great antianxiety benefits as well. the problem with propranolol is you have to take it 3 times a day and i dont want to do that either..

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

I was on it for cardiomyopathy. I was only on Coreg 3.125mg twice a day. I am so sensitive to meds. The Coreg had my BP in the 40's and I couldn't function. I also had short of breath with Coreg and the BP was up and down. I also had severe anxiety and nervouseness on the BB.


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I've been on and off Coreg, Ace Inhibitors, ARBs, Nitro SR, Verapamil, etc., several times over the years; always searching for the perfect combination of meds, with the best results, and with the least interactions and side effects.

I've also noticed that, when I first start taking Coreg, or start taking it again, it seems to raise my blood pressure not lower it. I don't know if this would do the same thing to you?

So... I can feel your frustrations regarding your own struggle for good health and effective, bearable medications.

Currently I am taking 25mg Coreg, bid, for a total of 50mg per day, and I love it! If you don't mind me asking, how much Coreg were you taking, how long were you on it, and why did you stop taking Coreg?

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

If you do a drug interaction check it say Beta Blockers and Clonidine should not be given together.
I had a consult with a hypertension specialist and he said doctors don't prescribe clonidine correctly. He said clonidine works correctly for 2 hours only. He said it should be used in emergencies only.

I am finding it EXTREMELY hard to wean off the clonidine. I should have weaned off the clonidine first and then then Coreg. I have been weaning of of it now for about 10 days and my BP spikes to 190/100 at times.

Doc put me on Benecar 20mg and Inspra 50mg and I understand Benicar takes a long time to work.





QUOTE=jamie007;4725426]Thats so funny because I came here to post a post about clonidine and coreg.
I am debating which one to take. I have a prescrip for both of them. I too am very sensitve to any meds and have had nothing but problems with all of them except beta blockers but they seemed to cause me to gain weight after 3 years of being on metoprolol I gained 30 plus pounds. Since i've beenoff I only lost about 8 pounds but now dont want to go back on them for fear of gaining more weight. When i started metoprolol i took 1/4 of a 25 mgs pill. it was not even noticeable when i took it. something to think about anyways. What I am curious about is why did you stop coreg and clonidine? I dont want to take something twice a day but i was on cozaar, hctz, lisinipril and there is nothing else to try but clonidine and coreg...any advice to me? I would be starting at miniscule amounts, like quarters of a quarter, lol, what ever it takes...if I go too fast i get side effects and stop taking them. last night my bp was 174 over 117. I ended up taking 10 mgs of propranolol (inderal) also a beta blocker that works within half an hour to bring it down and it has great antianxiety benefits as well. the problem with propranolol is you have to take it 3 times a day and i dont want to do that either..[/QUOTE]

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

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If you do a drug interaction check it say Beta Blockers and Clonidine should not be given together.
I had a consult with a hypertension specialist and he said doctors don't prescribe clonidine correctly. He said clonidine works correctly for 2 hours only. He said it should be used in emergencies only.

I am finding it EXTREMELY hard to wean off the clonidine. I should have weaned off the clonidine first and then then Coreg. I have been weaning of of it now for about 10 days and my BP spikes to 190/100 at times.

Doc put me on Benecar 20mg and Inspra 50mg and I understand Benicar takes a long time to work.





QUOTE=jamie007;4725426]Thats so funny because I came here to post a post about clonidine and coreg.
I am debating which one to take. I have a prescrip for both of them. I too am very sensitve to any meds and have had nothing but problems with all of them except beta blockers but they seemed to cause me to gain weight after 3 years of being on metoprolol I gained 30 plus pounds. Since i've beenoff I only lost about 8 pounds but now dont want to go back on them for fear of gaining more weight. When i started metoprolol i took 1/4 of a 25 mgs pill. it was not even noticeable when i took it. something to think about anyways. What I am curious about is why did you stop coreg and clonidine? I dont want to take something twice a day but i was on cozaar, hctz, lisinipril and there is nothing else to try but clonidine and coreg...any advice to me? I would be starting at miniscule amounts, like quarters of a quarter, lol, what ever it takes...if I go too fast i get side effects and stop taking them. last night my bp was 174 over 117. I ended up taking 10 mgs of propranolol (inderal) also a beta blocker that works within half an hour to bring it down and it has great antianxiety benefits as well. the problem with propranolol is you have to take it 3 times a day and i dont want to do that either..
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why are you getting off clonidine and or coreg? I was thinking of trying bystolic because i read several good reviews on it but then i looked it up for anxiety and found several bad reviews on it. I use to take metoprolol and am considering just going back on that and forgetging it..this is just getting too complicated. I also heard that coreg is a very old medicine so that it has been proven to be very good. sigh.

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

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I was on it for cardiomyopathy. I was only on Coreg 3.125mg twice a day. I am so sensitive to meds. The Coreg had my BP in the 40's and I couldn't function. I also had short of breath with Coreg and the BP was up and down. I also had severe anxiety and nervouseness on the BB.
why didnt you go down to half of the dose you were on?
I'm just curious, sorry if that sounded brash, didnt intend it to be.
thank you for the feedback.

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

I didn't just stop the clonidine, I weaned down, but like I said I am EXTREMELY SENSITIVE to medications. My doctor thought because I was only on 0.1mg twice a day, it would be a breeze to wean down. He was wrong.

By the way, the spikes are getting less every day.



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why didnt you go down to half of the dose you were on?
I'm just curious, sorry if that sounded brash, didnt intend it to be.
thank you for the feedback.

 
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Re: Clonidine Rebound Hypertension

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I didn't just stop the clonidine, I weaned down, but like I said I am EXTREMELY SENSITIVE to medications. My doctor thought because I was only on 0.1mg twice a day, it would be a breeze to wean down. He was wrong.

By the way, the spikes are getting less every day.
I"m sorry. I meant on the Coreg. Did you try half the dose of the Coreg?
My Dr. gave me 3.12 of Coreg and I am to take only half twice a day but I have
not as of yet even considered it because of so many negative reports i've read on it.
I'm so far sticking with this low dose of HCTZ water pill but need to increaase it but
am terrified to do so!

 
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... I was only on Coreg 3.125mg twice a day. I am so sensitive to meds. The Coreg had my BP in the 40's and I couldn't function.
I have the advantage of being retired, so if I can't function, nobody really notices!

When I first started taking Coreg 25mg, twice a day, it floored me. No energy. Extreme tiredness. My body was sooooo heavy. There were quite a few times when I'd just had it and wanted to get off of it. But I kept reading about Coreg's magic and it's ability to heal a sick heart, so I stayed with it. Once again, I am retired and have few responsibilities.

After 22 long, tedious, miserable, greatly fatigued days, all of a sudden the veil lifted and a lot of the nasty side effects were greatly lessened. My body did feel like it weighed a ton! I was able to get up from my recliner without a major effort! That NEVER happened to me on the lower doses of Coreg.

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I also had short of breath with Coreg and the BP was up and down.
I am asthmatic. There are many MANY things that can give me breathing problems, including my Heart Failure and valve disease. The ONLY increase in breathing difficulties I have experienced, while on the increased dose of Coreg, is if I eat too many calories during the day, drink too many fluids, or consume too much bulk. Buts..... as my health has improved, while on the 50mg Coreg, I have found that I can consume more calories WITHOUT having breathing problems. I still have to limit the bulk and the fluids, but that could be because of my Heart Failure.

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I also had severe anxiety and nervouseness on the BB.
I am so sorry that you could not tolerate Coreg. It is truly a wonderful medication. Most of it's most positive improvements to someone's health were found purely by accident. As the medical industry studied the effects of Coreg on blood pressure, they started noticing a lot of other good things were happening to the patients. That has caused Coreg (Carvedilol) to be one of the most thoroughly studied and tested medications. There were numerous human clinical trials. Many, many, many... The number of clinical trials has died down, now that Coreg is off patent.

Well.... I hope that you are over your "weening off" bad experience and are doing quite well!

Take care......
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