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rico5000 11-04-2012 01:13 PM

Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
Hi,

I've taken fish oil for a very long time. I've taken Cozaar for perhaps five years now. I started at 50mg Cozaar daily and now take 25mg daily. I also take 50mg Toprol XL twice a day for mitral valve prolapse (not for BP).

My BP has been normalizing and the diastolic sometimes gets into the fifties. I was wondering if the fish oil may be interfering with the medication. I can't imagine that it is. I'm doing a number of other "natural" things for my BP, including supplementation and slow breathing along with isometric hand squeeze exercises. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point I can come off the Cozaar.

Do any of you take fish oil as well as BP medications? What other supplements do you take and with what success?

I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you in advance.:)

Seekingpeace12 11-24-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
I take Magnesium Citrate, apple cider vinegar, nuts, a multivitamin, roasted soy beans, bananas, orange juice, and fish for BP. I am not sure how much it helps my BP pressure, but I know they help with the side effects of my beta blocker. As for fish oil, I used to take Omega 3 fish oil but chose to eat fish instead after I read some studies that fish oil was not as effective as eating real fish. I eat fish such as Tilapia in a garlic sauce, canned sardines, tuna salad, Ceviche, Red Snapper, Salmon, and octopus/calamari in a tomato/cilantro/onion salsa with olive oil.

atengnr 11-26-2012 09:11 AM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
I have taken fish oil for 10 yrs now. I now take 6 grams per day mostly because there is at least some evidence that it has anti-inflammatory effect. I cannot prove this to be the cause, but since I have gone to > 4 grams per day, I have far fewer aches and pains (yes, Im only 33, but have had aches and pains for years). I have not found that it helps my BP, but never carefully studied it.

I have tried garlic, citrulline/arginine, and COq10 in the past. I think that COQ10 lowers pressure somewhat (at least mine), though it produces the same side effect as I get with every vasodilating drug on the market - impairment of thinking and working memory, so I didnt continue with it.

rico5000 11-26-2012 03:17 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
I'm surprised you got that sort of side effect from CoQ10. I've never heard anyone say that before. I've taken it for a long time with very good results. I don't specifically take it for blood pressure.

atengnr 11-26-2012 05:09 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
I get that same side effect from every antihypertensive except beta blockers and clonidine. I have been to hypertensive specialists who have postulated as to why this might be, but the commonality here is the vasodilating drugs cause this issue for me. Note that beta blockers (exc coreg, labetalol and bystolic) do not dilate the vasculature. I have tried 12+ meds over the years....for example, if I took lisinopril, I would simply be unable to use my brain in any significant capacity....cannot really remember what I have just read, have difficulty composing sentences, cannot think. COQ10 does the same to me....

rico5000 11-26-2012 05:40 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
Sounds to me like you take statins. As those are statin side effects. But, of course, that's just a guess and I'm probably wrong. :) I find the beta blockers awful. They zap your energy and strength and make exercise an awful chore. I've taken them since my thirties and I'm 68 now. I hate them. I take them to slow my heart down - not for blood pressure.

atengnr 11-26-2012 07:56 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
Yes, I have that issue with beta blockers as well. In fact, after 9 yrs of taking them, I decided that Ive had enough, and I tapered off my beta blocker, last dose just a few weeks back. I feel 15 yrs younger! Pressure is near 150, but I have no med to take. Im 33 now, hope to see 70.....

rico5000 11-26-2012 08:03 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
I trust you're tapering off with a doctor's permission and not on your own. You certainly want to get your blood pressure under control and sometimes the only way to do that is with medication -- at least until you can make the necessary lifestyle changes.

atengnr 11-27-2012 07:52 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
In my case, I dont have a medication option (Ive been through all drug classes over the years), and Im not willing to stay on a beta blocker. Ive been a very restrictive diet for almost a decade now (basically no meat, low carb, no dessert since 2003), have always exercised regularly, have a flat stomach....the lifestyle mods are pretty much maximized. Im willing to assume the risk of elevated blood pressure, given the circumstance. If I could take an ACEI or ARB, etc. Id gladly do so.

rico5000 11-27-2012 07:56 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
I understand what you're saying. Actually, studies show that the drug companies intentionally lower the BP standards so they have more customers for their nasty little drugs. A large portion of people on BP medication really do not need it and may be getting more harm than good from the drugs.

I'm hoping to get off the Cozaar soon. I probably won't get off the beta blockers as much as I hate them. They seem to help control my heart rate issues.

atengnr 11-27-2012 08:01 PM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
Certainly, Id much rather see my pressure 120/80, but that wont be until someone comes out with a novel drug or interventional procedure. I recall when my BP was 110s/60s as a teenager, up until 19-20 yo.

Good luck, hope you can get off Cozaar, though Id rather hear you say youre getting off the beta blockers. Ever try diltiazem for your heart rate??

Machaon 11-28-2012 09:22 AM

Re: Fish oil and blood pressure medication
 
[QUOTE=rico5000;5095688]Actually, studies show that the drug companies intentionally lower the BP standards so they have more customers for their nasty little drugs.[/QUOTE]

Blood pressure medications might be nasty little drugs, with nasty side effects, but they also do a lot of good.

Plus...... drug companies have little to do with BP standards, or cancer standards, or AIDS standard, or cold standards, or infections. It's doctors, hospitals, medical colleges and government institutions like the National Institutes of Health that determine the healthy and unhealthy levels of blood pressure and other health problems. If drug companies went against what was determined by health professionals, their medications would NEVER get approved by the FDA.

Drug companies have created many beneficial, medications, like blood pressure medications, that have not only improved the healthy and quality of life for many patients, but have also extended the lives of patients.

[QUOTE]A large portion of people on BP medication really do not need it and may be getting more harm than good from the drugs.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, but BP medications have also done a lot of good and have saved a lot of lives and have helped to prevent patient health from deteriorating.

Unhealthy levels of Blood Pressure, especially those that are constantly high, will slowly result in damage to organs and glands in the body; and can lead to stroke.

I take the Beta Blocker Coreg (Carvedilol). It is a nasty little medication. The morning dose tires me for several hours. The evening dose has other annoying side effects. However, it really helps to keep my blood pressure at very healthy levels all day, and night, long; and it has other marvelously delicious health benefits. In my case, the good outweighs the bad (nasty little side effects.)

By the way, I take 1200 mg Omega3 fish oil each day, and eat a microwaved tilapia fillet three times a week.

Best of health! :wave:


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