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Old 04-03-2013, 08:45 AM   #1
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High blood pressure at night

Does anyone know what causes blood pressure to rise only at night? I am currently not taking any medication and for the most part, my blood pressure averages 130/80 more or less during the day. Just on a whim. I decided to check it at midnight since I was up reading late that night and it was 155/98, I couldn't believe it because at 10:00 p.m. it was 120/80. So I waited a few nights, checked again around midnight, and same thing. I have checked at midnight 4 times and it is always high even though all day it is perfect. It's hard to stay up that late checking but this has me baffled. My doctor said not to worry about it since it is not sustained bit it does worry me since I don't know what it is doing while I sleep. At 5 a.m. I woke up and checked again and it was back down to 120/80. Any help would be appreciated. I have been making lifestyle changes for 5 months and it has really helped my daytime numbers.
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Does anyone know what causes blood pressure to rise only at night?
Normal Blood Pressure "dips", or goes lower at night. Blood Pressure that rises at night is known as "non-dipping" Blood Pressure and is frequently associated with Diabetes or Insulin Resistance.
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Old 04-03-2013, 06:43 PM   #3
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Re: High blood pressure at night

You are always so helpful to me and i appreciate it. I am insulin resistant but not diabetic. I have been watching the carbs and sugars for a few years now and have gotten my numbers much better but triglycerides are still high. I have a Dr.appt. tomorrow. I don't know if I should take blood pressure medicine or not.One says yes and another no since my daytime numbers are good and who knows what's happenning while I sleep. I am so worried at night now I am having anxiety over this. Do you think I should wake up at 2 or 3 AM and check to see how high it gets? This is so scary to me. Thanks again for any advice.

 
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I am insulin resistant but not diabetic.
Insulin Resistance is a very tricky health problem, and usually one for which doctors do not test. For instance, you can have normal blood sugar readings and still be insulin resistant.

There are reliable estimates that 25% of American have some level of Insulin Resistance. It's one of the most untreated and overlooked serious health problems. In my opinion, Insulin Resistance has a strong relationship to other organ and gland problems, including thyroid and digestion problems.

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I have been watching the carbs and sugars for a few years now and have gotten my numbers much better but triglycerides are still high.
The normal "western" diet is much too high in carbs, especially the bad, high glycemic kinds (which taste the best! ). The amount of carbs that you can consume in any one meal, or for the day, is dependent upon how tired your pancreas is getting; and how resistant your body is getting to insulin.

What kinds of triglycerides numbers do you get?

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I have a Dr.appt. tomorrow. I don't know if I should take blood pressure medicine or not. One says yes and another no since my daytime numbers are good and who knows what's happening while I sleep.
I prefer empowering ones self, and not leaving medication decisions solely in the hands of some guy (doctor) in a white outfit, who spends little time evaluating my unique health concerns; and who forgets about me the moment I leave his business.

The best way to determine if one's blood pressure is running at unhealthy levels during the day is to take one's blood pressure at different times during the day, over a period of time (like a few days, or a week). If one takes bp readings in the morning, afternoon and evening, one can get a good idea of what is happening during the day.

When you are sleeping, your body basically shuts down, which would lower the blood pressure, IMHO.

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I am so worried at night now I am having anxiety over this.
If you find out how your blood pressure runs during a typical day, it could either reassure you that you have healthy blood pressure, or it could tell you that you need to take steps to lower your blood pressure, through more diet and medications.

There is nothing better, in my mind, to calm anxiety, than to be empowered. There are some really wonderful blood pressure medications. But, the BEST medication there is for obtaining a healthy blood pressure is a small meal, low calorie, frequent eating diet, IMHO. However, it is easier said than done. Going on a truly, low calorie diet targeting Insulin Resistance, is not easy. We all love to eat and snack.

Usually it takes a combination of diet and medications to get one's bp down to reasonably healthy levels. However..... bp meds come with a price. They sap one's energy, which makes it more difficult to function. BP meds try to shut down one's metabolism, almost the same as when the body shuts down to sleep.

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Do you think I should wake up at 2 or 3 AM and check to see how high it gets? This is so scary to me. Thanks again for any advice.
As soon as you wake up, your metabolism gets super charged and tries to quickly raise your blood pressure so that you are ready for the day's combat! So...... you would not be able to get the bp cuff on fast enough, in order to test your sleeping bp, imho.

It would be better to test the bp right before bed. BP readings around 10am, 2pm, 6pm, 10pm; over several days; would really tell you a lot about your daily bp patterns. Even so, there are many bp stimulants and irritants in the outside air and inside air and in one's diet, so bp can vary quite a bit from day to day.
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Re: High blood pressure at night

There isn't the slightest reason to be scared about your numbers. If you do find that your pressure is always elevated late in the day, the best thing would probably be to find a hypertension specialist or other physician who uses 24 hr ambulatory BP monitors and have 24 hrs of your BP recorded. This is perhaps the most accurate means of diagnosing hypertension....

 
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Re: High blood pressure at night

Thank you so much for the information. Of course, the doctor says I should start Losartan 25 mg. but I am still not sure. My morning blood pressure number always are around 130 /80, sometimes a little more or less. I have been tracking a few months now. Like I said in another post, the highest is about 155/95, and only a few times late at night. I will continue to track. I don't do well with the medications I have tried in the past and that is why I hesitate to start again. As far as the insulin resistance goes, I do check my A1c every few months since I was pre-diabetic and have gotten it down from 6.4 to 5.7. Triglycerides from 500 to 250. Still high though.
I can't tell you how much all of your information has helped me. I do walk every day and take omega 3's, (a prescription strength fish oil called Lovasa) which I think has really helped the triglycerides. I am still not sure about blood pressure medicine and will keep tracking. Last night at 9Pm it was 140/88 and back down this morning. Seems to be a typical pattern. Thanks again and God bless.

 
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Re: High blood pressure at night

Thank you so much for the information. Of course, the doctor says I should start Losartan 25 mg. but I am still not sure. My morning blood pressure number always are around 130 /80, sometimes a little more or less. I have been tracking a few months now. Like I said in another post, the highest is about 155/95, and only a few times late at night. I will continue to track. I don't do well with the medications I have tried in the past and that is why I hesitate to start again. As far as the insulin resistance goes, I do check my A1c every few months since I was pre-diabetic and have gotten it down from 6.4 to 5.7. Triglycerides from 500 to 250. Still high though.
I can't tell you how much all of your information has helped me. I do walk every day and take omega 3's, (a prescription strength fish oil called Lovasa) which I think has really helped the triglycerides. I am still not sure about blood pressure medicine and will keep tracking. Last night at 9Pm it was 140/88 and back down this morning. Seems to be a typical pattern. Thanks again and God bless.

 
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:42 AM   #8
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Just an update to let my very helpful friends here on this site know that I am heeding their advice and trying the dash diet with low salt and it seems to be working. My numbers have come down considerably in only a few days Just hope I can keep it up since I live in cajuncountry with very good food but also very spicy and salty food. My morning numbers have dropped from 130 0r 140 over 80 or 90 to about 114/81 and stays good until the evening. Last night at 10:00 it was 139/85 and at 11:00 the same. After that I go to sleep. I wonder if it continues to rise. All of your information about nocturnal hypertension has been very informative, however my doctor doesn't seem to know much about it. Before the diet. my nighttime numbers were also the highest of the day, but more around 150/93. Still the question remains as to weather or not to take medication for these night time readings. I am wondering what to do since this diet is not easy but seems to be working very well for daytime numbers.

 
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Re: High blood pressure at night

your nocturnal readings right now are perfect. It is doubtful if your pressure increases significantly during sleep. The only time it would increase is during rem or dream sleep which cycles usually every 90 minutes. A 24 hour ambulatory monitor could detect this but it is really unimportant. It is also important to realize that regardless of your own circadian diurnal proclivity, whether or not you run higher in a.m or nightime, your numbers are now great. Using medication at this point wouldn't make much sense. We also tend to peak in our anxiety before bed, the day to day stress can make its presence known near bedtime. I think you dodged a bullet and with these lifestyle changes which are cumulative you should do fine.. Exercise, diet, stress reduction, deep breathing, possibly some supplement and lots of restful sleep and weight control you got it made!

 
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Thanks so much for your quick reply! I think you guys know more than my doctor. I will keep on the path with diet, exercise, currently just walking, low salt, prayer, and reading the scriptures . all have helped. I hope I can stick to this diet. It makes it very hard to eat out.I suppose I will see what happens if my salt intake increases. Your information about the nighttime readings really lessened my anxiety. I go to bed a little worried, well. a lot worried, but I will try to calm down about those nighttime readings. They have come down. Thanks again !

 
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I do suggest that you see a doctor who offers ambulatory blood pressure monitoring. Get a 24 hr monitor and you will no longer have anything to wonder about.

 
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