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Old 07-30-2006, 07:33 AM   #1
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"Swollen Glands"?

A lot of people who are worried about possible HIV infection complain of "swollen glands". I was curious if most people really know how to evaluate whether their lymph nodes are truly swollen or not. I'm guessing that someone who is obsessed with lymph nodes might aggrevate them a lot which could make them feel swollen. That being said, does anyone know of a website that would explain to the average person what swollen lymph nodes are really and how one can determine if he/she has them? For example, in the neck there are various types of glands that can become swollen such as salivary glands, lymph nodes, etc..

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Old 07-31-2006, 09:56 AM   #2
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

[removed]if you have access to a library, you can read the AMA book on medical terms and conditions. Both explain alot on swollen glands.My only confusion was does swollen mean painful or just swollen? The way I understand it is, painful means your fighting an infection and swollen(not painful)means POSSIBLE Cancer or something else. Probably didn't help you much,but, I thinkthe sites I have read are all in
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:48 AM   #3
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Lymphnodes are incredible little infection fighters , aren't they ?
Normaly they are the size of a pea but almost instantly they can swell to the size of a grape and hurt like hell .
Lymphnodes can swell for many , many , many reasons .
They have swollen long befor hiv and they will continue to swell long afterwards ( BELIEVE it OR NOT )
LYMPHNODES can do many things but when they swell its usualy due to an infection of some sort whether viral or bacterial and even a stomach disorder and even the gout can cause a lypmphnode reaction .
What happens when a lymphnode raises and begins to swell is that the whites blood cells connect and start to clear the blood of an infection , they sweep them away to the nearest lymphnode and use it as a containment area . Inside the lymphnode there is many things taking place meaning ,
The ifection is being studied by the immune cells , it is being contained ( to prevent further infection ) it is being destroid .
There are no major blood vessels that flow into or out of lymphnodes ( only capilaries ) and that's why it can take so long for a lymphnode to go back down to normal size .
Also , even though they can be ROCK HARD the insides are incredably fragile and if poked , pulled or prodded they could loose their shape or get seriously damaged and not return to their normal state and hurt forever or even worse , need to be taken out .
If a lymphnode does happen to become damaged the surounding lymphnodes could start to raise and also hurt ( even if they don't swell )
Lymphnodes no how big they can swell in order to fight an infection and if one can't handle it then a few others might raise and fight the infection if needed BUT if poked or looked for via digging for lymphnodes then you could do serious damage .
Lymphnodes are very rich in nerves and hurt terribly when swollen but if left alone to do their job they do stop and goe down on their own , in time .
Ronnie I'm not sure what exactly you have used or how far out you tested but keep this one thing in mind .
It doesn't realy matter what you read on the internet , hear or see the bottom line is the test .
3 months , 13 weeks what ever term you want to use but to be more specific 90 days and always get a follow up at the 6 month mark not that you will seroconvert but mainly just to make absolute sure and be able to put it out of you're head once and for all ( SYMPTOMS OR NOT ) and if you're still having problems and even during the window period you should definately get looked at by a reputable infectous disease specialist .
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:15 PM   #4
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Hello Ronnie
How are you ? I hope you are feeling better

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Old 08-08-2006, 03:35 AM   #5
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Hi Lost Spirit,

Thanks for asking. I am doing ok but my persistent swollen glands in my groin and underarms are getting to be very troubling (it has now been 6 months with this symptoms off ond on and they never fully go away) . As some know who read posts here my tests results seemed to strongly suggest I was not infected with HIV but my body says there is something seriously wrong that is not diminishing. I went to a new family doctor and apparently the old doctor's office did not even forward the EBV test results that they had originally told me might explain my symptoms. That suggests to me that the EBV testing was not really medically conclusive so they did not want to look bad and send those results to the new doctor. I was really deflated when I learned they had not sent those tests as part of my file.

I simply cannot get away from the connection to this lingering illness and when it started (sfter a potentially very risky sexual encounter). I am really at my wits end....

Ronnie

 
Old 08-08-2006, 03:36 AM   #6
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Hi Lost Spirit,

Thanks for asking. I am doing ok but my persistent swollen glands in my groin and underarms are getting to be very troubling (it has now been 6 months with this symptom off ond on and they never fully go away) . As some know who read posts here my tests results seemed to strongly suggest I was not infected with HIV but my body says there is something seriously wrong that is not diminishing. I went to a new family doctor and apparently the old doctor's office did not even forward the EBV test results that they had originally told me might explain my symptoms. That suggests to me that the EBV testing was not really medically conclusive so they did not want to look bad and send those results to the new doctor. I was really deflated when I learned they had not sent those tests as part of my file.

I simply cannot get away from the connection to this lingering illness and when it started (after a potentially very risky sexual encounter). I am really at my wits end....

Ronnie

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Old 08-08-2006, 05:05 AM   #7
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Ronnie honestly it doesn't matter how bad the symptoms are that still doesn't mean that they are hiv related and believe it or not there are many other things that can cause them and make life miserable for some one .
If you're body was actualy being attacked by hiv that hard that would suggest a farely high viral load and a pcr would definatly pick something up by at least 28 days ( wich is the actual time frame to use a pcr )
Where you diagnosed with epstien barr ? Because there is a posability you could also have something else going on there in combination with it like CMV (Cytomegla Virus ) and ( Human herpies )
Lymphnodes swell to fight infection and/or disease and they battle many things that are hiv related .
Could you put up you're testing history for me ?
We are all here for you Ronnie
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:20 PM   #8
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Hi Lost Spiit,

Thanks for asking. Well my testing reflects my strong symptoms and how they made me extremely worried about my situation. Looking back now I know I over tested because a lot of the tests were essentially redundent, but I was sick and worried so I did all of them on my own without the doctor except the first two of them. Below are my tests:

6 weeks post - EBV test which I was told showed an active strong infection
7 weeks - Elisa as well as a full STD panel - all negative
11 weeks - Elisa - negative & another EBV showing active infection
12 weeks - pcr proviral DNA - negative
15 weeks OraQuick antibody test - negative (this test was free at least)
17 weeks - Elisa I & II negative
19 weeks - PCR proviral DNA negative
20 weeks - Oraquick - negative (another free test)

I have not tested since (over a month) but my swollen glands are still very annoying and somewha painful. I still have the feverish feeling in the head and neck although not nearly as strong as early on. I had some strange skin infection about a month ago when my skin got hot feeling all over my body. The sores on my forearms diminished but left pinkinsh discolored areas. I also got huge hives on my head around the same time for one day. I'm not usually a sick person as I've only missed 3 sick days in over 15 years at work.

I have never had these sort of symptoms such as paleness, tiredness, skin issues, swollen glands before. I have no idea what is wrong with me. The doctors have not been a big help. I think the family doctor does not want to worry me about HIV so he acts like I am fine although he is looking into possible other issues with more blood work (not HIV testing)

 
Old 08-08-2006, 09:40 PM   #9
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

I think that we have the same doctor .. I asked him specifically to run tests against other viral types of infections to try and figure out what is going on with my symptoms. He stated.. "Come back in 6 months, we will do a full physical and another HIV test."

I sympathize with your situation - not understanding what is wrong seems to be one of the hardest things for people in this forum.

Are you taking any regimented vitamins etc? I started taking one Selenium a Coenzyme Q10 and a CVS Silver Multi Vitamin daily. I feel better in general.

Have you done another full STD panel recently ?

 
Old 08-09-2006, 04:39 AM   #10
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Re: "Swollen Glands"?

Hi Sweatingbullets,

I did go on B100, C 500 and a multi-vitamin about a month ago which did seem to help. I've heard from some people that B12 injections can help also, but I have not tried those.

I asked about having the STD panel run again and my family doc said it was not necessary and I was over tested already. I did take a second syphillis test on my own at about 5 months due to the skin issues, but it was negative (I was almost hoping it was positive so it would explain things and it is treatable with injectable penicillin).

Best of luck to you,

Ronnie

 
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