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Old 06-28-2010, 12:18 PM   #41
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Re: symptoms and testing

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Do the math. The implication of those three statements is perfectly clear. If somebody experiences ARS symptoms late- say they don't begin until 3 weeks after exposure- then their test will turn positive by 1 week after (i.e. 4 weeks)- and your 6 week test was well beyond that. That was my point.




HIV variability has absolutely nothing to do with the window period.
He says typically one to three weeks after ARS symptoms. Emphasis on typically. If someone got symptoms 3 weeks after exposure typically they would seroconvert 1-3 weeks later that brings the total to 4-6 week later not just 4. You're assuming way to much to say their test will turn positive by four weeks post exposure, or one week after symptoms.

Actually HIV variability does have to do with the window peroid, everything isn't as simple as you would like to believe.

read this... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8970678

Here's the title "Lack of screening test sensitivity during HIV-1 non-subtype B seroconversions."

". CONCLUSION: The shorter time since HIV infection required for sera to become reactive in third-generation EIA screening tests is due to better sensitivity for subtype B strains only These results stress the importance of strict donor selection, the need to test screening kits against large panels of all subtypes, and the place of p24 antigen testing in closing the window of seroconversion."

I could have seroconverted using the right test for my specific subtype as serconversion (when talking about seroconversion HIV means becoming HIV positive In other words meeting the criteria for the screening test or assays) If the screening kit used wasn't sensitive for my subtype of HIV infection, its very possible I had a false negative result at 6 weeks post exposure. Not to mention DNA PCR's are mainly meant or targeted for subtype B infections and "should be used with care in non sub type B infection's" as a false negative is a very real possibility in a non sub type B HIV infection.

You're fairly knowledgeable but you're making wild assumptions like my symptoms can't be from HIV and other stuff when you don't know that's quite unfair.

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Old 06-28-2010, 01:47 PM   #42
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Re: symptoms and testing

Missingyou, it's like you WANT to have HIV. joggen had made a very good point. I tested at 5 weeks and was negative, he said I would have tested positive by then. I have moved on since and am experiencing lower abdominal pains, some urethral discharge and am focusing on that. Clearly HIV was not my problem to begin with even though I was in te exact same boat as you and had all kinds of 'symptoms'.

I read online that by 6 weeks nearly 100% of people will have seroconverted and tested positive IF they were indeed infected with HIV. The only cases where individuals have tested positive after the 6 weeks was when they were coinfected hep C which would have stunted their immune system to the point where they were delayed in creating HIV antibodies. If anything I'd get tested for hepatitis first and worry about HIV after.

If you're so fixed on HIV why not find someone who truly has it and sleep with the
and see what true ARS symptoms are otherwise please believe your 8 week negatives.

 
Old 06-28-2010, 06:05 PM   #43
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Re: symptoms and testing

it just keeps going and going... why not just wait on your test and the results instead of reading and worrying yourself with stats.

All I'm saying is that you may be so fixated on HIV that something else is literally killing you and when they do your autopsy it won't be HIV and it'll be too late to make yourself healthy because you were fixated on one thing.

just wait till 8 weeks, and get your negative

 
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