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Old 07-30-2003, 11:18 AM   #1
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HI!!
Does anyone have any personal experience or advice for NATURALLY & HOLISTICALLY treating/curing cervical dysplasia or HPV.

I think I'm pretty up to date on all the vitamins, minerals and dietary information recommended. Anything else I can do???

I've heard about Beta-Mannan....anyone tried it??

Let me know if anyone can help.

Sandy

 
Old 08-03-2003, 07:51 AM   #2
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SandyinFL
i know it has probably been talked about already on here but since this is a new thread specifically on natural treatment can you share with us which vitamins/minerals/dietary information that is recommended for treating dysplasia.

thanks so much!

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Old 08-04-2003, 01:20 PM   #3
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I too would like more info on the vitamins and minerals.

 
Old 08-11-2003, 10:25 PM   #4
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Hi Everyone & Anyone,

Ever since I found out I had cervical dysplasia from HPV I've been devouring any information I could get about it. It got really frustrating re-reading the same things over and over again in hopes of finding something new!!

Vitamins that stood out in my research were:

Beta Carotene, Folic Acid & Selenium. Make sure you are getting plenty of those 3 (you might as well take a mulit vitamin and get them all though!!)
The vitamins don't cure the dysplasia but it aids your immune system and helps to keep the cells from turning cancerous. This will give you time to see if you can heal yourself. Also, if you do have a leep or cryo, this will help your healing and curing!!

I also, found support for a Echinacea (3weeks on one week off), Goldenseal, and Shiitake Mushrooms.

I also got advised to do a daily douche (1 tspn white vinager, 1 tspn liquid beta carotene, and 1 qrt warm water). Do this for a couple months. I haven't tried this yet but I'm planning on it.

My most dramatic find though is this herb-vitamin called Beta-Mannan. They boast a 95% cure rate for cervical dysplasia!!! I ordered a couple bottles and so far I've been using them religiously. So far I feel good and no yeast infections yet. Its a 3 months regimen then I go back for another pap-smear to see if it worked.

I'll keep you posted on my progress.

ps... I'm very grateful for the leep procedure to fall back on but I would love to avoid it if I can

Sandy



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Old 08-16-2003, 08:50 PM   #5
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Sandy, you're not going to be able to cure cervical dyspalsia with vitamins or some other concontion you read about on the internet. This is very serious and could effect your fertility FOREVER.

Everything you read on the net isn't the honest truth. I don't know why you'd decide to try and treat this yourself, but just beware that cervical dysplasia can become cancer if you mess around too long. Trying concoctions of different douches or vitamins isn't going to cure you.

I urge you to seek a doctors care before it's too late.


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Old 08-21-2003, 01:21 PM   #6
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I'm kinda on the middle of the fence on this. I don't believe in douching at all. I do belive that nutrition can help us, but I'm not a huge fan of supplements. If we can get this stuff naturally, in our diets, it really shouldn't hurt. But, the FDA doesn't regulate supplements. No one really does. They scare me just a little because we can't really know what they are, who did the resarch that says what they are "good" for, and how they might hurt us.

I know a lot of us have to wait three months in between procedures to see what out bodies can do to heal themselves. It can't hurt to take care of ourselves in between. Tell your doc if you do take supplements and then listen to your body and decide for yourself.

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Old 09-14-2003, 08:24 AM   #7
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I can vouch for Beta- Mannin!!!!

It worked for me.....after constant low-grade pap results, coposcopies, and biopsies, I had a LEEP in Dec 02, and immediately began the Beta-mannin after finding it on the internet. Upon purchase, I felt like a sucker, thinking this is probably just a scam, but I was SOO scared about my health, and I downed those pills like clockwork (for 4 months), because WHAT IF...what if they really could make a difference? What if I chose not to try them, and had another bad pap? I had my pap in April and it came back NORMAL!!! I know you ALL know how life-altering this dysplasia thing is, and to have an option is freeing. I have absolutely no way of knowing if it was the pills that made my pap normal, but I "feel" like they did. And I just had my second post-LEEP pap, and am very nervous about the forthcoming results. Two good paps in a row is supposed to be the measure of true recovery.

FYI, I also drink a lot of soy milk, and eat ground flax seeds. These 2 items have done for my health than any vitamin or food in my life, and I suspect they aided in my immune health and my dysplasia healing. Every woman should add these items to their daily diet.


 
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I also have to put in my two cents about the nutrition thing, if anybody is still reading this thread.

Ultimately, we all have to make our own decision about our own health. But I applaud any one who does intelligent, analytical research and takes a nutritional route above medicine any day.

Doctors are smart. They've had a lot of school, they've studied and been tested and know chemistry and biology and statistics. They are not gods, however. And their biggest problem is that they spend their lives around sick people.

Disease is the norm for doctors, not health. Therefore, their outlook is about treating disease, NOT bringing about health. It's subtle, but it makes a big difference. Medicine and technology are not wrong or evil, or anything like that, but they are "un-natural" in the sense that, like the dysplasia, they're not part of a healthy human system. Paps and Colopos and LEEPs sometimes feel, to me, just as invasive as the HPV. If nutrition, food, supplements, and herbs can support my immune system and increase my body's chance to heal itself, this seems a healthier, sane approach.

The additional benefit of seeking nutritional solutions is that it gives us a sense that we have not lost as much control over our bodies or our lives as dysplasia makes us fear we have. We can do something.

Cancer is deadly serious and there are remarkable stories of people using nutrition and putting their cancer (many forms far more aggressive than cervical cancer) into complete remission and becoming more healthy than before their diagnosis. There are also wonderful stories of medical technology destroying cancer.

Personally, I'd rather try putting Beta Carotene, Folic acid and soy products into my body before being cut into and having parts of my flesh removed -- or exposing myself to chemicals and radiation. But one woman's cure could be another woman's poison.

Whatever you do though, take charge of your own health. Question your doctors, do research, make your own informed decisions.

 
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Sandy,

One more word, in response to your original question -- There is a book by Anne and David Frahm about treating all forms of cancer with nutrition and diet. It's called something like "A Battle Plan for Cancer." Anne was diagnosed with "hopeless" breast cancer and put it into full remission with nutrition after chemo and radiation failed. You might find more information in there.

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I think it all depends on the type of dysplasia you have and your overall health. I have mild dysplasia and my gynecologist seems to think it will most likely resolve on it's own, so we're just monitoring it for the time being. Vitamins and minerals won't really "treat" dysplasia, but it definitely can't hurt to make healthy eating choices and take suppliments to keep your body in good shape so it can deal with the dysplasia on its own.

One big thing I've been told over and over is to cut out refined sugar. We have such high-sugar diets these days, and aparently cancer lives off sugar (which is a really simplistic way of putting it), so limiting your sugar intake is a good idea. Stop drinking soda and eating junk food, is what it boils down to.

Another is to up your intake of folic acid. There's been studies that link folic acid depletion to dysplasia and certain types of cancers in women. Women who are on the pill or hormone replacement should DEFINITELY be taking folic acid suppliments, because those things really depleat the body of folic acid, among other things. I'm currently taking 800mg of folic acid two to three times a day.

I'm also two-timing my gynecologist by seeing a women's hormone specialist every so often. The clinic I go to is run by a Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) which is basically a medical doctor with a natureopathic and hollistic focus. The lady I'm seeing gave me suppliments called Indoplex last time I was in. I looked up Indoplex on the net and learned that it's Indo-carbitol, which has been shown in a number of studies to help revert cervical dysplasia and HPV in women. I'm taking two capsules of Indoplex daily.

There are other things that would definitely not hurt to start doing, besides eating well, cutting out sugar and soda, and taking suppliments. A big one is to get active and get regular excersize. Walking is supposed to be the best excersize of all.

Now, remember, these aren't "cures". These things are only smart choices you can make to keep yourself healthy, but above all you need to get regular pap smears and if the dysplasia isn't getting better, you need to seriously consider the options your doctor feels are necessary. This will likely mean surgery. But remember, the LEEP/cold knife/cone/etc. are all PREVENTATIVE measures to try and prevent your cervix from getting cancer. Dysplasia does not mean you will get cancer, though. It means you COULD get cancer.

Hope this helps some!

 
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Old 10-11-2003, 01:57 PM   #11
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Thanks for everyone's input!!

I'm going on my 3rd month of Beta Mannan and will schedule a repeat pap soon!
I'm excited and nervous!

Thanks for the Indoplex, Indo-Carbitol tip I'll look into that too!

I've done a lot of research on Cervical Dysplasia and YES, YOU can CURE it with vitamins (among other things) because you are facilitating your immune system to fight it off the disease.

When you get a LEEP you aren't curing anymore than vitamins are. You are basically TRAUMATIZING your cervix and initiating an immune response.

Sometimes we give doctors and medical precedures too much credit, when its our immune system that's doing most the work.

Good Luck to Everyone!!

 
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Bumping because there are TONS of threads now with women and LEEPS and dysplasia:

To all ofyou with bad paps: please try Beta-Mannin. It is pricey, but if you have express hardship to them in an email, they will discount the price for you!!!! I emailed them and they brought the price down to $90 for 3 months supply.

Someone in another thread mentioned how there is so little awareness of this issue with women, and we need to follow paths to recovery that aren't so traumatic. Butcher butcher butcher is the popular route - it turns my stomach to think I may have to endure it again in the future (had 2 LEEPS already, and am finally "clear"). The only natural product I found that had any kind of research behind it specifically for cervical dysplasia was the Beta-Mannin company. I guess I have control issues here, but with so many women looking for REAL answers and action, I can't help but want to SCREAM "go buy this stuff!" This is so easy! And blood-free! I want this product to be there if/when I need it again. Let's get the numbers to prove it works.

Honest to God, I am not doing a promo. I am just a woman with 2 horrible memories of LEEP, and found a way out.

Sorry if I offended anyone.


 
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So COOL to hear about so many people looking into holistic approaches. I have also been studying/researching alternative methods of treatment for months, but ultimately still had to have a LEEP this past Monday. I only went forth with the LEEP because I haven't had kids yet and don't want to mess that up w/the insecurity of not knowing if holistic treatments are completely effective.

Still, like others, I upped the folic acid intake, started taking "Maitake" mushrooms by MycoMedicinals, of course still taking multiminerals/multivitamins...and really made sure to meditate every day pouring healing energy into myself. I highly encourage people to envision your cervix surrounded by white light, and then extend from your cervix to the rest of your body until you glow. Surround yourself ONLY with loving supportive people and loving thoughts toward yourself. There is no room for even a drop of negativity. And lavender, lavender, lavender...

Also, I'm not a stuffed animal person (or never have been in the past) but after my LEEP I found myself carrying around this super soft toasty bear in lavender (look for the ones filled w/lavender, lemon, rosemary, hyssop, rose bud, peppermint, orange peel and flax seed.) (You can also get one at Whole Foods Market.) You heat him in the microwave and put him on your belly and you're in heaven, esp. since you can't really soak in a lavender bath post-LEEP for a bit.

I've taken this experience as a way to really learn how to love myself even more and how to live a healthier life, both physically and mentally.
And if you're into crystals, look into Chryssocola and Seraphinite.

Much love.

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I am still a total skeptic when it comes to herbal remedies. I may not have made that clear earlier when I said "supplements." I do think we all need a good multi-vitamin and a healthy diet. But the other things like echinacea and beta-mannan scare me. I often wonder if they could do harm instead of good. These things are chemicals just like medicine. I don't entirely trust the systems we have in place for studying pharmaceuticals, but at least some system exists.

The really interesting thing is that so many cases of dysplasia do heal on their own without any help. That is why CINI usually isn't operated on.

That said, I am really interested in the kind of research that was done on Beta Mannan. Sure, you can get a bunch of women with dysplasia and have them take it and then say that it went away, but that happens without medicine or herbs or supplements. What would maybe show some promise would be to take two groups that areotherwise the same: healthy diets, meditation, no smoking, same HPV status, healthy immune systems, and same level of dysplasia. Add beta-mannan to one group and see if more of them recover...significantly more. Has that been done? I would love to know if it has with beta-mannan or any other product.

I still worry about side effects with these things. You can't put things in and only get a positive impact on one part of the body. Other systems are going to be effected. When we take pharmaceuticals, we are warned about these effects and we can weigh the risks.

If you are a believer, though, I have one word of advice. If you have CIN I AND you and your doctor have decided to monitor it for three months, use that three months to build your immune system however you think you can, but make sure to tell your doctor about all of your medicines, including natural ones, not just the one that was prescribed. Please, don't mess around with CIN III, though; only rely on natural treatments for CIN I. There is no reason for cervical dysplasia to turn into cervical cancer and the surgeries do help. They cut out the bad cells, they encourage nice young cells to grow back and they initiate an immune response. CIN III is so close to cancer that you really want to do everything you can, even if that means "butchering" your cervix. It could save your uterus.

Just my 2 cents for today.

 
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My recollection is that "Beta-Mannan" (that's how the tradmarked name is spelled on the product I bought, although the dictionary spells it"beta-mannin"), is mainly Aloe Vera based.

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"The ingredients of the Beta-mannanô Supplement include, in each serving of 2 capsules: Natural Vitamin E, as d-alpha-tocopherol, 100 IU, 333% Daily Value; Proprietary Blend of Aloe vera gel (beta-mannan concentrates extracted with low temperature dehydration), 1000 mg, Daily Value not established. Other ingredients: Microcrystalline Cellulose, and a gelatin capsule of vegetable source. It does not contain any sugar, salt, soy, yeast, dairy products, preservatives, or artificial colors."

Panik - there is nothing in that list of ingredients that looks threatening or harmful to me, unless you are allergic to aloe. Beta mannen is not an herb, per se. It is a compound of aloe vera.

I found this study by Columbia U., too:

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Program Overview
Sloane Hospital for Womenís Division of Urogynecology and Pelvic Reconstructive Surgery is committed to helping women in need of specialized treatment for pelvic disorders. Our specialists have an excellent success rate in the treatment of all types of urinary incontinence, pelvic prolapse, and reconstructive vaginal surgery, using advanced laparoscopic techniques as well as medical therapy and major surgical procedures.

The divisionís clinical team of physicians and a nurse practitioner all have specialized training in the areas of Urogynecology.


Clinical Trials:
Betamannen Studies
- Use of Betamannan for treatment of low grade cervical dysplasia
- Use of Betamannan for abnormal PAP and HPV positive
Study Description: Betamannan is the active ingredient in the Alovera plant. This is a double blind study, placebo controlled. For information, call 212-305-1107 and speak to Elisabeth Visser, NP.
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The site didn't mention any findings, just that they are doing studies.

 
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