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Old 08-09-2010, 05:46 PM   #16
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Re: What Can Help My Eczema, Allergies, and Inflammation?

SwtSimplicity, you say that you have thrush but that it doesn't look typical; I believe I have the same thing (even though I'm a guy). About a year after my scrotum turned red (Dr. thinks its ecxema), my tongue slowly turned white. It isn't chunky and my gums don't seem to have the typical thrush-looking symptoms but the whole top of my tongue is white which gets worse as the day goes on. I can scrape most of the crap off, but it still looks white even after I do this.

Recently, I have concluded that this is a result of non-albicans yeast, more specifically C. Glabrata. I have had mouth swabs performed by ear/nose/throat specialists who determined that this was not thrush, however I do not know if they tested for all strains of yeast or not. When the specialist looked at my tongue she said right away that it wasn't thrush just based on the look. She ended up sending me home believing that it was geographic tongue even before she sent off my DNA for tests.

In your case you would get a pap test to determine if there is an infection, I think that I can only be tested via blood or stool and I have not had either of these tests done. I find it weird that nobody else on forums seem to be talking about other forms of yeast and how to treat them. Looking online it looks as if obtaining echinocandins or Amp B isn't going to be all too easy since most of these drugs are taken via IV. Did you by any chance as your Dr if you could be put on any yeast meds other than the azoles?

One thing that is different is I changed my eating habits and had no sugar for six months which seemed to have absolutely no effect on my symptoms. When you went on your diet, did your symptoms improve immediately? When I started drinking coffee and alcohol again, the only change is that my tongue gets really white while I'm drinking booze but that could simply be because I'm becoming dehydrated from the alcohol. This seems to be getting progressively worse as time goes on and so far everything that I have tried (fluconazole, doxycycline, capryllic acid, pau d'arco) has had no effect.

I looked up the femdophilus but unfortunately it looks like its specifically made for women. Any chance you have heard of the same type of thing for men? Acidophilus makes absolutely no difference.

 
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Re: What Can Help My Eczema, Allergies, and Inflammation?

BigRed2k4,

Both my gynecologist and my general practitioner said the coating on my tongue is possibly connected to my eczema. I actually did get my mouth swabbed and the yeast culture came back negative (I didn't ask if it was for both candida yeast and non-albican yeast). What you said is similar to me; as the day goes on and I eat certain things, the coating on my tongue gets worse especially if I eat bread. There are times when I would clean my tongue really well and all of the coating comes off, within the hour I can start to see it showing up again. I try not to clean it too hard because I heard about a controversy about brushing too hard leading to oral cancer because bacteria enter the gums or something like that. I've been trying to pay attention to how bad it gets after I eat certain things. Bread, coffee, and sugar makes the coating worse. I don't smoke or drink either.

I never bothered asking my gynecologist that I want to be put on yeast medications because my yeast cultures would always test negative (for all yeast including non-albican yeast) and I'm afraid I could be doing myself more harm than good taking something that I may not even need especially if their antibiotics. The last thing I want to do is over do it with antibiotics.

When I went on my diet, I didn't notice immediate results. I noticed a slow but consistent improvement. I didn't jump into the diet though because I tried to at one point and I lost so much weight and I have a small frame so that wasn't good. I began testing the foods that would flare my symptoms every now and then and within the hour I would start experiencing symptoms.

I'm kind of on a yeast-diet/macrobiotic/raw food diet. I also try to avoid eating meat since most meat is pumped with hormones and toxins including antibiotics. After consistently staying on the diet for many months, my eczema is clearing up, my skin isn't as dry, my vaginal and tongue issues aren't half as bad as they used to be, and my allergies weren't a huge issue. I can't do much about being allergic to dust/dust by-products and mold. I just continue taking OTC allergy medications.

I'm pretty sure you can take the Fem-Dophilus even though it's specifically made for women. It's just a probiotic, the worst-case scenario for you would be that it doesn't work. There aren't any other probiotics that I know of that contain those strains of bacteria except for RepHresh Pro-B which is basically the same thing.

Do immune related conditions run in your family (i.e. Hay fever, allergies, eczema, asthma)?

 
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