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Old 06-04-2006, 03:47 PM   #1
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IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

Has anyone had any successful IUI's without using medications such as clomid, etc. I am currently trying to get pregnant doing an IUI. I am doing it all natural because I do ovulate on my own. I just feel like IUI's will not be useful for me.

 
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Old 06-04-2006, 05:40 PM   #2
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

I also ovulate on my own but my doctor would not allow me to do an IUI without drugs. His reason is, it is too difficult to monitor a natural cycle. I have done 4 IUI's with drugs (2 with clomid and 2 with follistim injections). My girlfriend also saw an RE and he would not do IUI without drugs. Are they monitoring you with ultrasounds and bloodtests? Are you at fertility specialist or a gyne? Sorry I couldn't give any insights on a natural cycle. Best of luck to you!
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:13 PM   #3
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

Hi, that's what I thought. It was very hard to monitor my ovulation. I go to a regular gyn. He told me that I'm to monitor my ovulation with test strips and as soon as I see a line I am supposed to call the office and make an IUI appt for the next day. It's so aggravating because it is really hard for me to tell the exact time that I need it done. He told me that clomid makes it easier to miscarry, so he didn't want to put me on it. Can they still monitor you with bloodtests or ultrasounds even if you are not on drugs? Probably a silly question........

 
Old 06-04-2006, 06:42 PM   #4
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

First, I don't know why your doctor told you that clomid has a higher rate of miscarriage. That is not true, there is no correlations with miscarriage and clomid? How long have you been ttc? How many IUIs have you done. I would recommend seeing a fertility specialist. It was the best thing I did, gyne just are not trained to deal with fertility issues. I do not think that they do the bloodtests and us with a natural cycle. They can take your blood on 23rd day to check your progesterone level. Let me know if I could help with anything.

 
Old 06-04-2006, 08:13 PM   #5
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

We have been ttc for two years. I've had all the testing and so has my husband. I also have pain during intercourse. I haven't had a laparoscopy though. If the IUI's don't work, than I think I'm going to have one. I have only done one IUI so far, I'm thinking about trying about 4 before moving on. I have been wanting to see fertility specialist for awhile now, who do I talk to about seeing one? My regular dr. or my gyn? Do you need a referrel? He has checked my progesterone and he said it was fine.

 
Old 06-05-2006, 06:25 AM   #6
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

Carisa -
Do you have male factor infertility? I am having a hard time understanding why they wouldn't put you on Clomid - I've never heard that reason before.

I am currently seeing a specialist that is monitoring me with NO drugs - we are not doing IUI, but I am being monitored to see what my body does on it's own - even after ovulation. I think it's a great test, because then you know if you actually ovulate, if you have good hormone levels throughout your cycle and everything WITHOUT the use of drugs. Don't get me wrong, I am not against using drugs, I have been through 4 cycles of IUI using different drugs, but I think it's very useful to know what your body does NATURALLY on it's own. So far, I am on day 14 and I have only one follicle developing (which is normal) and it's a little over 18, which is the size they look for when you do IUI with drugs. I am anxious to see the follicle rupture as no doctor has ever done ultrasounds to see the follicle rupture and beyond. I am also getting blood tests every other day to check hormone levels thoughout the normal cycle.

Anyway, didn't mean to go on about myself there - just wanted to let you know that they can monitor you with no drugs - it's no different than with clomid except there's only one follicle to follow.

Also, I have endometriosis and it sounds to me like it might be a good idea for you to be checked with a lap. One of my main problems was pain with intercourse - I have another lap sceduled for July (my second one this year) with a specialist who actually looks in the tubes and places where other docs do not check for endo. I have also had a HSG in which they found my tubes were not blocked, but this specialist says there can still be endo in the tubes inhibiting the egg from being fertilized. I have heard many stories of people getting pregnant after having endo removed during a lap - although it has not yet worked for me, I still have hope!

Again, my apologies for going on about myself again. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find great support here!

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Old 06-05-2006, 09:15 AM   #7
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

My doctor does IUI without drugs. Drugs aren't really necessary if you're ovulating just fine. But my doctor let me know that the chance of success is only 10% over 4 tries. I guess you could release 2 eggs if you were taking clomid, which would increase your chances. BUT, what if you release 5 eggs? That could be really dangerous.

 
Old 06-05-2006, 09:57 AM   #8
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

CHJH-You are right, that would be scary if I had too many eggs! No thanks! I guess I just worry that my chances are really low with only one egg, and even lower without being monitored to see exactly when the IUI needs to be done. It's so frustrating. I think my doctor said about 10-15% after about four tries. I can't believe all the stress that we all go through, it's crazy! Thanks for responding.

RAVAEMARIE-There is no male factor infertility. He's been checked. I do really want to see a specialist, I guess I need to start doing a little research to find a good one in my area. What your dr. is doing with you sounds interesting. I would like to know exactly what my body is doing each month. Something must be wrong for me to be having pain during intercourse and infertility. I am terribly afraid to have a lap done. What was yours like? I'm most afraid of having that tube down your throat! LOL It just sounds so terrible. I think I just need to get over that fear and do it. I've also heard many stories of women getting pregnant after their lap. I had an hsg done and one tube was clear, the other he thought was probably spasming. That was so painful for me. It's also really painful when I ovulate for about 12 hours. Sorry for the rambling.


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Old 06-05-2006, 12:57 PM   #9
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

As far as referrals - I would think it depends on your insurance procedures. The pain during intercourse could also be significant (like endometriosis). When I had insurance to cover infertility back in the 90s, there wasn't a specialist nearby (only ob-gyns with "some training" in it). I saw 2 or 3 different ones till I found one that at least thought to do some testing on me! Though it's hard to say what would have happened then, when I was younger, the doc recommended IUI and I just wasn't ready emotionally. Almost 10 years later, I immediately sought an expert when we decided it was time to spend the money on this. If you don't need your doctor's referral, you might want to ask around (like, ask both your docs for suggested REs). I work with a psychiatrist who had friends who went to my RE and loved her; so a recommendation from another MD is good enough for me. :-)

We're still waiting to see if it worked, though. LOL!

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Old 06-05-2006, 03:07 PM   #10
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

Carisa - I have had 3 laps done and they are really not that bad. I was also worried about the tube down my throat, but they do it after you are asleep and they take it out before you wake up, so you don't even know it was there, except your throat might be a little sore or dry. I had complications with 2 of my surgeries - my bladder doesn't react well to anesthesia and doesn't know when to work again, but now that we have that figured out, the next one will be a piece of cake. The worst pain that you will have is from the gas that they use to inflate your stomach during surgery. It stays inside of your chest for a couple of days and you will feel some pressure from that. They will give you drugs for the pain in your insisions which in all of my experiences was minimal. The good that can come from the lap seriously outweighs the pain it causes.

I also have pain during intercourse (I may have already said that), as well as pain when I ovulate for 12-24 hours. I have very painful periods and pain throughout the month at certain times. These are all signs of endo. Endometriosis can be the ONLY reason for infertility and if you catch it soon enough before it causes scar tissue, you can eliminate it as a cause.

As far as finding a specialist. You can do a search online for Reproductive Endocrinologists in your area. Maybe ask around to see if anyone has information on any of them - even if it's bad, then you know not to use that one.

Again, I wish you the best of luck!!! If you have any other questions, feel free to ask...

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Old 06-05-2006, 05:27 PM   #11
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

Hi guys,
thanks for all of you advice. It really helps. Yes, I think I will start asking around to find a good specialist in my area (Bay Area, CA). And yes, I also have pain throughout the month, it's pretty ridiculous. My gyn thinks that I do have endometriosis, he's just waiting on me to be ready for a lap. I think I just need to do it and get it over with, especially if you have a better chance of pregnancy afterwards.

 
Old 06-06-2006, 06:22 AM   #12
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

I felt better after my lap (and they can do the HSG while you're under, too), knowing the doc has seen inside to know whether everything was healthy and normal or not.

Good luck! :-)
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:18 PM   #13
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thanks guys!!

 
Old 06-09-2006, 12:20 PM   #14
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Re: IUI without using med. such as clomid,etc.

Hello have done 3 IUI"s without clomid, no luck there. My doc says that the chances are a little higher but not much witht he clomid. Have taken Clomid in the past and have had no side effects from it. I also ovulate on my own but the clomid just helps the chances along a little. Hope this helped.

 
Old 06-09-2006, 12:22 PM   #15
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I have had a laparoscopy a few yaers ago it wasnt too bad but helped to clear up any of the questions we had about the insides of me functioning properly. Have been trying to get PG for about 8 years now, the lap was a good fact finder but did not help to get PG like they thought it might.

 
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