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Old 02-28-2004, 07:35 PM   #1
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Hi Subs,

I was wondering if you had come across anything more on the herpes virus and lab? The reason I ask is because everytime I get another cold sore or when one is on the way, my symptoms increase dramatically....I can drop from feeling near normal again to about 50%. The symptoms are up until the cold sore heals. Do you think symptoms increase for the simple reason that it's just another virus the body is fighting off and hence some decompensation or could it be more sinister - that the original lesion was caused by the herpes virus and so further episodes are interfering with the vestibular system more dramatically then, say, a cold?

Many thanks.....Scott

By the way, I just made it through the best week yet - 90% overall but last night suddenly took a dive with the arrival of the above.

 
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Hi Scott

....."had come across anything more on the herpes virus and lab?"....

Yep:

There was study to demonstrate viral latency in the VG(Vestibular Ganglia)---
called:

Prevalence of HSV-1 LAT in Human Trigeminal,
Geniculate, and Vestibular Ganglia and Its
Implication for Cranial Nerve Syndromes

---it was done by:

1 Department of Neurology, Klinikum Grosshadern, LMU
Munich, Germany
2 Max Planck Institute of Neurobiology, Martinsried, Germany
3 Thermo Hybaid GmbH, Ulm, Germany
4 Department of Neurology, University of Pavia, Italy

about a year ago----

The study summary says:

Herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) enters sensory
neurons and can remain latent there until reactivation.
During latency restricted HSV-1 gene
expression takes place in the form of latency-associated
transcripts (LAT).

LAT has been demonstrated
to be important not only for latency but also for reactivation,
which may cause cranial nerve disorders.
Tissue sections of the trigeminal ganglia (TG),
geniculate ganglia (GG), and the vestibular ganglia
(VG) from seven subjects were examined for the
presence of LAT using the in situ hybridization technique.
LAT was found on both sides in all TG (100%),
on both sides of five subjects (70%) in the GG, and
in none of the VG. Using a second more sensitive
detection method (RT-PCR), we found LAT in the VG
of seven of ten other persons (70%).


This is the first study to demonstrate viral latency
in the VG, a finding that supports the hypothesis that
vestibular neuritis and Labyrinthitis is caused by HSV-1 reactivation.
The distribution of LAT in the cranial nerve ganglia
indicates that primary infection occurs in the TG and
GG and subsequently spreads along the faciovestibular
anastomosis to the VG.

Outstanding on the 90%---it does go---but---man---what a trip!!!


 
Old 02-28-2004, 09:57 PM   #3
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Re: Subs - any ideas here?

Subs I'm going to run that off and take along to my specialist. Scotsman I gather you are a Canadian living in Sydney, mind me asking which specialist & hospital you see and what you think of them.

 
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Re: Subs - any ideas here?

Hi Scotsman,

Funnily enough i also find that my symptoms takle a nose dive whenever I get a bug or just done alot. I dont have cold sores so cannot comment on that and the increase of you symsptoms. But what I would say is that commonly cold sores break out when you immune system is low or you are over tired and stressed. All these things in there own right would make you feel worse symptom wise so maybe the cold sore is a sign you are a but run down??

hey how are your symptoms these day any way?

 
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Re: Subs - any ideas here?

Thanks for that Subs. Interesting that it could be a herpes related virus or herpes itself causing the problems in many cases. What is strange is that it supposedly only hits people once in their life (viral lab that is) and does not return again whereas regular cold sore type herpes returns again and again.

Ninamarie: yup, you got that right. I have seen only one specialist named Professor Gibson in Newtown near RPA. He's the guru when it comes to running certain tests. Please see the following post where I outline what he did: [url]http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=66583[/url]

I also went to the dizzy clinic at RPA for an ENG. It was not a good experience for me but did show that there was no permanent vestibular damage.

Willsmommy: thanks for asking. I just had the best week in 6 months...about 90% and then I got hit again with something on the weekend which has left me feeling all weird again (virus of some sort). My balance has gone south again but I am confident I'll be back at 90% soon again.....then it's only a matter of time until I hit the big 100 I hope. I'm not even really aware of the tinnitus much anymore so it must be on its way out. Certain foods can still set me off too depending on the circumstances but all up I'm leaps and bounds ahead of the way things were 2 months back.

How about you? Are you still making good progress? Sure hope so.

All the best....Scott

 
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