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Old 01-11-2003, 09:52 AM   #1
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Red face IBS and kidney stones and more?? LONG

I am new here...finally admitted to myself that I have IBS (believe it was triggered in 4th grade...had it ever since and now I'm 31). I have the big "D" a lot, though I've had months where I seem almost normal. I happen to love the rabbit poop since it means I'm not having "D". Lately my poop is either too soft or horrible "D", with almost any food triggering it (especially grease or oil or dairy). Today even water.

Anyway, to get to the point, I am an active person and this IBS has really started to keep me from biking and doing anything fun. If I try to bike after bad episodes, I am too dehyrated and get the shakes and try to vomit. OR I am afraid of getting "D" while biking period. I'm getting it far too often, although the weekends seem the worst.

To top it off, I ended up in the emergency room with a kidney stone last week. I had one 6 years ago too. I don't think I've passed this one yet to know what it is made of but the last one was calcium. I can't go off calcium because I know it is good for you! I was very dehydrated and my urine was too concentrated they told me in the hospital. I haven't been drinking as much as I should because it's colder and because of all my "D" (water sets it off when it is super touchy).

Anyway, I am just wondering if my IBS is contributing to me producing kidney stones because I am not absorbing my vitamins and food. I am on prenatal vitamins because I wanted to get pregnant but now I am afraid because I am such a mess with IBS and kidney stones I don't know what to do. PLEASE HELP!

I have read some of your posts and will try to get some metamucil or psyllium today, but I just want to have a life!

On a side note, I was on an antidepressant/anxiety drug for a short time last year during a rough time and noticed I had no stomach problems...but I really don't want to stay on one of those (it also made me gain weight). I come from a long line of worriers and high anxiety people!

Thanks for any help.

 
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Old 01-11-2003, 11:09 AM   #2
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Welcome to the board and I hope we can help you? You will find a lot of support here.

Anyway, do you actually take calcium supplements? If so, you may need to reduce these because of your kidney stones. Yes, calcium is very good for stopping the diarrhea of IBS, as it allows your bowel to absorb water back more naturally, but calcium oxylate actually creates kidney stones. You also really need to drink more fluid. Try drinking slightly warmer water rather than cold. Cold water will most definitely aggravate your stomach, whereas warm water will not.

Start the Metamucil and this really should help a lot to make your stools more formed.

As far as the anxiety goes, then yes it is not surprising that your stomach was better whilst taking the meds, as a lot of IBS stomach problems occur due to the mind/gut link. I don't know what you were taking, but sometimes Enavil in a 10mg dose can be very helpful for cutting the mind/gut link without the side effects. As your doc about it.

You can also try some probiotics to help re-balance your gut flora. This can also help diarrhea. Also, take a look at your diet too. Just slight dietary modifications can be beneficial.

Hope this helps?

 
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Thanks for the response. I don't take any calcium supplements except what is in my prenatal vitamin (and I'm sure that has some in it). I cannot stop taking that obviously. Sometimes I think these vitamins don't agree with me either, but I got on a different one that is a little better and take half in the morning and half at night. My stomach is just a mess. I tried to chew gum and that started some pains up again! That is why I get so dehydrated (because I don't want to drink or eat anything until I am absolutely starving).

I will try the metamucil although it sounds all wrong to me and am not looking forward to any side effects since I normally don't have that much gas. Anyway, I'm willing to try anything. I'll write down the antidepressant too in case this doesn't work. I just have to be sure whatever I take would be safe for pregnancy. I don't know...maybe someone as messed up as me shouldn't have kids.

 
Old 01-11-2003, 02:03 PM   #4
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Metamucil is a water soluble fiber supplement and is as good to take for diarrhea as it is for constipation. Your GI system needs fiber to function and most of us just do not obtain enough from food to make this possible, which is why we have so many stomach problems. As it is only fiber it is perfectly safe to be taken during pregnancy as well. If you have diarrhea the fiber will make your intestines more gripping and will regulate your stools.

Yes, in the first few days of taking Metamucil you may well find that you have excess gas and that your belly is a little bloated. This is perfectly normal and will resolve once your body gets used to the extra fiber. You must ensure that you drink enough water with it though, at least 6 to 8 glasses of water to wash things through. You need to give it a chance to work though, which is the mistake most people make with this. They start taking it and give up after only a few days as they think it is not working. However, in reality, they have not given it a chance to work at all. You need to try it for at least two weeks before you can make that kind of decision. If you feel that this may not be right for you, then you can buy Metamucil wafter that are easier to take, but you do need the fiber.

Also, eat some live yogurt or start taking some Probiotics/Acidophilus caps and that should help any gas or bloating by rebalancing your gut bacteria, which if you say that your stomach is a mess will definitely be unbalanced.

You also need to look at your diet and try to cut out coffee, soda and junk foods and include fruit, veg and have a good all round healthy diet. This can also help.

Other very good natural remedies to try are Peppermint tea if you have stomach ache. This also comes in a herbal tincture formula of peppermint mixture which is good for IBS stomach problems. It helps soothe the stomach and relax all the muscles and the bowel.

Chamomile tea is a good anti-inflammatory and can help to soothe a painful stomach.

Also, the herb slippery elm is extremely good for helping stomach type inflammation problems and diarrhea, so if you have diarrhea and stomach ache, dissolve a tablespoon of slippery elm into a cup of chamomile tea and drink and it should help settle and soothe.

Sometimes if you have stomach ache and you are not doing anything and have time to spare, go and lie down in a comfortable place. Stretch out, close your eyes and let yourself relax totally. Start to breathe deeply from your belly rather than your chest and then put either a hot water bottle or heat pads on your belly. Lie like this for at least 30 mins and continue deep breathing. This and the heat should really help you and your muscles to relax, thus making you feel better generally and helping to soothe your belly ache.

One last thing. You need to be patient. It must have taken your stomach sometime to get into a mess, so your problems will not go away overnight. You just need to experiment a little and try what works for you, although not all at once. Just try things out slowly until you hit on the right formula for you.

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Thanks. I do eat pretty healthy...not much junk food, no coffee, and not much soda. I haven't eaten fast food for years because of my stomach. I am pretty fit and active...not overweight just to give you an idea of my condition.

My intestines seem to give me more trouble than my stomach, although it is all kind of related. Eating brings it on more than anything, although sometimes stress can (usually still follows me eating though). As soon as it triggers, it seems to move my food way too fast through my intestines causing pain and "D". I have gone for several months having normal stool so I do remember what it was like! (although after reading some of this site it seems like you guys may think my idea of normal stool is slightly constipated..it feels good to me though).

I got these metamucil cookie things today and ate one. I also got some yogurt and ate one. So far I haven't gotten sick. My stomach isn't calm but it isn't as bad as it was for the last 24 hours. I will try to do this stuff for 2 weeks to give it a chance as you suggested. Funny you mention the teas because I have been drinking peppermint and mint/chamomile teas lately. I will try to up my water intake (that is my drink of choice usually anyway).

Thanks...you have been most helpful. My husband is very worried with my recent kidney stone(s) and hyperactive stomach. He wants me to go to the doctor, bo you think I should ask to see a specialist? Do you think I could have more than just IBS? I really am not keen on any kind of colonoscopy procedure. I know I've had troubles since I was a young girl so I was just figuring it was IBS.

 
Old 01-12-2003, 02:04 AM   #6
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That is good to hear that you have started the Metamucil and the yogurt. I always ask about diet, as this seems to be one of the things that can cause people most problems, yet is really one of the simplest to correct.

When I say stomach, I mean it to include your bowels as well, although abdomen is probably the more correct terminology. That is very good that you are already drinking the chamomile and peppermint teas. This is a very good and natural way of helping your stomach. Remember, everyones system is different and although you may only open your bowels every other day or once every two days, it does not necessarily mean that you are constipated. As long as your stools are not hard and difficult to pass, then you are ok.

If you have had stomach problems since childhood and have not seen your doc about this, then it is probably worth a visit so that he can examine your belly and perform bloods tests and any other tests that he feels he needs to do. It may also be worth getting an ultrasound scan of your belly too, although you may not necessarily need any further tests such as a colonoscopy. It depends if anything shows up on the others tests.

A diagnosis of IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion, which means that if all the other tests come back negative, for things such as the inflammatory bowel diseases, then a diagnosis of IBS will be given. This just means that you have chronic problems but without the pathology of other disease.

I would suggest that a visit to your doc would be a good idea just to check you over and to make sure that nothing else is going on and especially as you have had your stomach problems since childhood. It may also be a good idea to get your thyroid checked out too, as hyperactivity can cause stomach problems and diarrhea too.

Good luck and get back with what happens?


 
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Sure! And thanks again for all your prompt responses.

 
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Well I went to the doctor today. Aside from treating me for an infection from the kidney stones that the emergency room missed....we talked about my guts! She thinks it sounds totally like IBS, although she said she would send me to a specialist to be sure if I wanted. I decided not to go since my symptoms really didn't sound like anything else and she was pretty sure I'd have to get the colonoscopy (no thanks!). She gave me a printout with more info on IBS and we talked about options. So far the fiber thing sounds like my best shot...if I can get that to work since it is really the only pregnancy friendly option. I am really hoping it does the trick. I mentioned this in another string...but I took 1 wafter the last 2 days, and today I took 2. I am trying to slowly find the right doseage for me since you can take several per day. I am feeling a little constipated and gassy but not horrible. I actually had a very nice bm today...best in a long time. I only hope I can find the magic doseage that makes me less constipated but still having solid/unmessy poop!

 
Old 01-13-2003, 04:43 PM   #9
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Great stuff. Just keep experimenting and you really will get there in the end. Just takes a little time though.

 
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