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Old 07-16-2003, 10:08 AM   #1
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Hi my names Richard I live in the UK I am 34 and male (going on 99 .... well it feals like that ) .... erm please dont hold any of this against me

I have come across this site today in my neverending search for answers or to find people that share similar experiences. I have suffered a long time with IBS but would love to hear from anyone who suffers heart palpitations/arrhythmia or chest pain along with the IBS symptoms especially bloating and alternate loose or hard bowel motions. Every IBS site that I vist does not list or link arrythmia/palpitations as a symptom but I always get these now and the worse the stomach is in terms of bloating and bowel motion the worse the arrhythmia is .... the link to me is just too strong to deny. From a cardio point of view I have had all the tests including Nuclear scan. I'm absolutely fine structurally wise and they cannot find a cause for the many skips that I have. The cardiologist will not confirm or deny a link between the stomach and the palpitations (sometimes as many as 20000 a day (yep thats 4 yes 4 zeros) If I can settle my stomach they go down to either zero or a handful a day but I have great trouble in handling the triggers. Fibre always seems to help but other than that well...... I guess you have all been there no used trying to teach ya all to suck eggs hmmmmmmm I wonder do eggs help anyone LOL

Thanks in advance to any responses and to all out there hope your days is pain free (or as pain free as it can be)

Richard.

 
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:31 PM   #2
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Well,. I am glad you dound this site and I must admit this board is a wealth of information.

I am not clear about how the palpitations manifest themselves. Do the palpitations occur when you have a IBS BM? Do you have sweats along with the palpitations?

Good luck

 
Old 07-16-2003, 02:44 PM   #3
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I am afraid to say that this is all linked. There is a large nerve called the vagus nerve that runs through your body and through your belly too that can cause all these problems and that is why the palpitations and the IBS are definitely linked. You also have the mind/gut link with IBS too and anxiety definitely is a causative factor.

Everything I am afraid interrelates in the end, as the mind and the body are linked and what happens in one area affects the other and vice versa.

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Old 07-17-2003, 11:33 AM   #4
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Thanks for your replies The palpitations happen most of the time but really flair (increase in frequency) when my stomach is upset and is relieved a lot of the time after a bowel motion. I can't eat spicy or greasy foods or tolerate alcohol at all, aspartame seems to be another chemical that really sets my stomach and the palpitations off. Its interesting that you mention the Vagus nerve as I had a cervical fusion and it was very shortly after the operation that I started with the palpitations and almost neverending set of stomach sensation (no matter what time of day I always seem to have some sort of nagging pain, always worse not too long after eating). Thanks for raiseing that I will look into it I had stomach problems way before the fusion and palps and used to take lanzoprazole for a number of years as well as domperidome (motility drug) I have had a barium swallow and endoscopy and the stomach specialist reported excessive amounts of acid which he thought was my problem hence the drugs.

Well I hope you all are doing well and that you continue to do so. Would love to hear of any tips or thoughts that you guys have for surpressing the IBS or even just coping with it as I think my GP and specialist are basically out of ideas (sound familiar? lol)

Take care all

Richard.

 
Old 07-17-2003, 01:52 PM   #5
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To all,

This is really an interesting topic.
But to Richard, you are not alone. At this time, excessive greasy food, high sugary foods, alcohol, and gluten containing products all give me very severe BM. I had to radically change my diet in order to function.

I have also heard that not all people can tolerate aspertaime, some are allergic to it as well.

The vagus nerve is something I do not have a lot of knowledge on. But if I understand it correctly, if my stomach gets upset severely it can cause your heart to race. Per richard's note, it happens during a BM. is this also accompanied by excessive sweating, queasiness and lightheadness?



 
Old 07-19-2003, 11:12 AM   #6
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My doctor thinks I have IBS also and I too have palpitations. My doctor put me on Atenolol to help with the palpitations and it has worked so far. I wasn't convinced that my doctor was right with the diagnosis of IBS, but maybe he is...

 
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All you people having palpatations should have your hemoglobin checked out. The cardiologist I saw some years back didn't think to check my hemoglobin...I guess cause I looked so robust. It was during a routine blood check before I started at a gym that I found out that my hemoglobin was 8.9. It should have been between 12 and 14 for a woman and 14-16 for a man. Raising my hemoglobin eliminated my palpatations.

Not that this is your problem, but you might want to check into this as well. Janetto

 
Old 07-21-2003, 09:24 AM   #8
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Thanks again to all who repsonded.

To 'Frustrated1' I do occasionaly sweat and feal sick to the stomach and dizzy when passing a bowel motion especially when I have a lot of skipped beats/ palpitations. Just to clarify its not an immediate cessation of palpitations after passing a bowel motion its a gradual reduction in the skips/palpitations usually over the following hour until they are to a level that I can handle or ignore.

To Super Sarah thanks for a Super link I have now had a chance to look into this a little further and its amazing that all my troublesome areas seem to be where the Vagus nerve extends to and terminates (including the heart). Thank you so much for this. I have an MRI of my Spine and Head (Brain if they can find it lol) very soon and will ask if this is what they are looking to see has been damaged (re Cervical fusion as the Vagus nerve is one of the items that can be damaged during the fusion surgery) It could be me doing my own math and making it fit but its well worth broaching the subject with the Neurosurgeon especially since the Cardiologist has come to the conclusion is Autonomic/Neru Cardiogenic .... so thanks again Sarah

To Rorie your Cardiologist could indeed be right but theres great conflict between Cardiologists over a heart and stomach link its best to undergo all the Cardiologic tests and find that you have a structurally sound heart before you begin to try and find other causes. A stress test would seem reasonable as well as an Echo. And if you want 'Ultra' piece of mind a PET scan or Thallium which is about as conclusive as you can get But if the Atenolol is working it looks like your Cardiologist has nailed the problem first time around How often did you get the skips if you dont mind me asking.

To JanettoB thanks for mentioning the hemoglobin I haven't asked specifically aboout this and only hope with all the blood tests I have had they have checked it .... but one never knows so I will be sure to ask next time I see my GP or specialist . Thanks

Again to all out there wishing you have the best day that you can

Richard.

 
Old 07-21-2003, 12:37 PM   #9
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I too have heart palpatations as a result of my ibs. For a year and a half I went through test after test for my heart and everything came back fine. I had no chest pain and no shortness of breath. I noticed however that I would have an attack of palpatations right after eating especially eating a full meal. If I had a lot of gas the palpatations would set in and as the gas was relieved my heart rate dropped back down. Most times I have them while driving on the highway, I feel as if I need to go to the bathroom but obviously I cant go at that moment so my body reacts with the palpatations. I also have the typical ibs symbtoms including diarrhea or very soft oddly shpaed stools, mucus, urgency, cramping, bloating, gas etc...... the list goes on.

I have seen my doctor and he has put me on the drug Toprol XL to prevent me from having the palpatative attacks and he wants me to have a sigmoidoscopy to rule out ibd.

Like you, I thought that I was the only one experiencing the palpatations. I am glad you found this site.

Stay Positive

Doyle

 
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