Concerned: Abnormal protein & creatinine lab values - Kidney Disorders Message Board

*cs* · 02-25-2008, 05:40 PM

Hi,

I had a urinalysis done for a life insurance exam and the values that came back were abnormal. What would these values indicate?

Protein 64 H (normal range 0 - 30)
Creatinine 333.2 H (normal range 27.0 - 260.0)
Prot/Creat (MG/MGCR) 0.19 (normal range 0.0 - 0.20)

There was also a small amount of blood in the urine but I was having my period (could that be the cause of the high protein and creatinine?) I was approved for the life insurance, so I'm guessing it's not too terrible, but if there is some underlying kidney disease, I don't want to ignore it.

Thanks in advance.

Bikerman · 02-27-2008, 09:29 PM

I don't think this response is going to help but I'm interested in what others might say. I had kidney cancer last year and they removed my left kidney. Now, 10 months later, I'm still having probs with creatinine levels. Don't know what the imperial conversion is but in Australia (metric), cretinine is supposed to be 40 - 120 and mine is consistently around 130. I also have very high potassium level at 5.9 (normal is 3.6 to 5.4) My doctor seems to think its a dietary problem and I need to cut back on food with high levels of potassium. He's unsure as to what causes the high creatinine.

feelbad · 02-28-2008, 09:37 AM

the one big thing about alot of actual lab values and ratios is that they can be very specicfic to the actual way that lab does them.usually,whenever you have labs done,the normal lab values for THAT particular lab are stated right along the same line so you can see right away whether or not your labs are within the norms.it can vary a bit from lab to lab.

i have to say CS i am a bit suprised the ins co just approved you with no mandatory follow up with your doc for furhter kidney testing.really,your kidney labs really do show some level of actual kidney affectation.just what that really is needs to be found out.they can use other types of labs and also ultrasound or even CT to really get a good overall 'look' at those kidneys.your labs are just not good right now and you NEED to find out the problem.unfortunetly,you DO have some type of kidney problem.that is what those labs actually show.i would make an appt with your doc as soon as possible and also bring that lab sheet with you too.its just that protien is very high and so is your creatinine.this does need to be Dxed properly and soon.hopefully it isn't overly serious but it does need to be evaluated much further in order to find out why those labs are so very out of range.do you know of anyone in your family who has had some sort of kidney problems?there are some certain types of congenital(passed on) kidney diseases that are out there and pretty common.i have polycystic kidney disease and didn't have a clue it was even in our family til my youngest son became very ill and we,his parents had to be given ultrasounds to find out which side it actually came from.of course it was me.i didn't find out i had been actually living with a kidney disease my whole life til age 40,and so was my sister.please let me know what you find out.Marcia

flowergirl2day · 02-28-2008, 11:56 AM

Marcia,

thanks for that info. Would you happen to know what lab values are needed for determining acidosis> does high urea level (out of range) indicate anything (along with a high creatinine and protein & cr/alb ratio and a decrease in KF). My electrolytes are messed up a bit from the meds so I am wondering....

thanks,
flowergirl

feelbad · 03-01-2008, 08:36 AM

honestly,i really don't know hon.you could call your docs lab and speak with someone there.sorry.thats just a bit over my head right now,lol.one thing i didn't see was your GFR? this is also an indicator of how well your kidneys are filtering.the things i always look at when i get my yearly kidney/liver labs done is for my kidneys,the creatinine and the GFR.i already know the protien and the trace blood is always in my urine just becasue of the kidney disease and the little,or some are huge,polycysts i have break and some are bleeders.

they can do that 24 hour clearance test thing and evaluate that for you.this just gives a bit more specific info on YOU and not with certain set ratios or perameters that are really rather generic.its just a much more individualized type of test that sets YOUR real numbers.you just have to keep track of your 24 hours worth of pee in a big reg jug,then bring that in for analysis.

at this point i really do think your ongoing care would be much better managed by a good nephrologist.they are just so much more knowledgable about kidneys.i have been seeing one here and there since my Dx was made.mostly just monitoring so far.thankfully my labs,despite all the destruction and really big enlargement of both kidneys,have remained(knock on wood here) in the normal ranges.also obtaining an ultrasound would really give a good overall picture of what the kidneys are looking like and actual blood flow thru them with that doppler tool they have on it?i have this done on a yearly basis.you just really need to find out WHY your labs are so out of range and what your Dx is.any real lab type questions,you can just call your lab at your primarys office or just call the local hosp and ask to speak to someone who actually works in a lab there.if you have your lab sheets there is always a number of the lab where your work was done,you could call that too for future lab questions since you will be needing more monitoring now than the average person who has normal labs now.i just don't know if the ins co lab would be the best place to call at this point,thats all.

i would do a follow up with your primary at this point and see what he or she wants you to here next.but going to a good neph is really a great idea for you now.good luck and please keep me posted.Marcia