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Old 11-01-2008, 11:36 AM   #1
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Just received second surgeon's opinion.

I posted earlier about problems from my arthroscopic knee debridement, which was five months ago, to remove damaged cartlidge from the upper left knee. Since that time, my knee and calf are swollen and sore. There is a severe pain on the bone below the knee cap. The knobby bone on the outside of the knee that I now can't put full weight on. Before the surgery I had an aching pain in the mid to upper knee and quad. Now everything is in the lower knee to the foot.
I had full use of my leg before the surgery. I could run, but because of the deep ache, didn't want to. Now I can't run, which I may have to do for my job. The new surgeon's P.A. told me nothing shows on the MRI that indicates a problem they can do surgery to help so there isn't any sense in the surgeon treating me.
He can't explain the lower knee bone pain and said my swelling is a result of my body adapting to the missing cartlidge. (Fine, except it's in the wrong place). I was given the stock answer, "you have arthritis".
So basically they want me to go away and suffer.
Am I crazy? The first surgeon told me prior to surgery that he could make my pain better and I'd be back full duty in a month. I've lost partial use of my leg from what was supposed to be a simple procedure.
The second surgeon made certain when he dictated his notes to indicate that the first surgeon was an exceptional othopedic surgeon.
Do I have anything to consult with a lawyer? I am going to have to get a release for full duty at work now because if this goes on any longer, they can force me to retire and I'll be on welfare with no insurance.
Hoping someone out there can give me some help. I know some of you are facing issues that are far more serious than mine. So, thanks in advance for your time.

 
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:06 PM   #2
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Re: Just received second surgeon's opinion.

Frustrating isn't it?!! Can you get yet another opinion? You know something is different and the explanation you are being given doesn't seem to fit. I had a carpal tunnel release that didn't have a recovery according to what I was told to expect ( and also didn't come close to the recovery I'd had with my other ct release.) I went for a second opinion and was told that my problem wasn't from the ct release, but it was nerve damage from the carpal tunnel, even though symptoms were different. He was basically doing the same thing that you're second opinion doc did by backing the first doc's diagnosis/prognosis.
I sought a third opinion and had another ct surgery. That surgeon told me that the first surgeon to do the surgery had nicked the nerve.
So....when I injured my knee, the only orthopedic doc at my local clinic is the same one that did my CT release. I saw him once and then opted to go elsewhere for Physical therapy and surgery. I have since found out, that the local orthopedic surgeon misdiagnosed a High school athletes knee injury. That kid's parent's trusted the diagnosis even through two more episodes of re injury. They were told their son's injury would heal and that he didn't need surgery and that it wouldn't happen again, but it did two more times. They finally went to another facility. That orthopedic sports doc looked at the first MRI and said that their son should have had surgery after the first injury to repair the injury as well as taking more time to let the knee heal.
I'd say trust your gut on this one.

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Old 11-02-2008, 01:38 PM   #3
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Re: Just received second surgeon's opinion.

Yes, I did consider seeing someone else if my insurance will allow. I do think I'll have problems with any doctor saying anything against either of these doctors. The first one was in the news recently for performing knee surgery on a famous athlete and the second was one my family doctor recomended as being the best in the State.
My best option right now might be to keep my appointment in the morning. The P.A. called Friday to give me the MRI results and told me there wasn't much sense coming in to see the surgeon, but I could if I wanted to.
I've decided I need to convince him I need answers, that this is my life and my career and make him explain exactly why the surgery caused these other problems. If he can't help, please refer me to someone who can. The P.A. told me I may want to change careers. Easy for him to say.
It might not work. I've tried to be persistant with the doctors and P.A'.s I've had to deal with for months. They have a way of getting even if you don't agree with them. I was getting a Synvisc injection and immediately after injecting the anesthetic, he injected that big old needle of Synvisc before it was numb. I jumped and it left a nice bruise. That was the point when I decided I needed to go elsewhere.
It's makes you angry these specialists can't treat their patients like they're supposed to and go for gettting as many patients in and out as quickly as possible. You shouldn't have to go to the expense of finding answers from another doctor after one has taken the responsibility of performing surgery on you.
Thanks for your response. Sorry I had to vent.

 
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:14 PM   #4
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It's makes you angry these specialists can't treat their patients like they're supposed to and go for gettting as many patients in and out as quickly as possible. You shouldn't have to go to the expense of finding answers from another doctor after one has taken the responsibility of performing surgery on you.
Thanks for your response. Sorry I had to vent.

I know what you mean...and venting is o.k. with me. With the nicked nerve deal, I called the first ortho doc and told him what he had done. His response was "that is why we have you sign a release." I always seem to be in that 1-2 percent of the population that gets to deal with negative outcomes...and I get to pay for it physically and financially.
As for the docs seeing a lot of patients. I think that is more a result of insurance pressure and what the insurance companies with pay. A pediatrician at our local clinic quit because the clinic wanted him to see more patients and his schedule was already pretty booked.

 
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:15 PM   #5
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I just want to add, good luck, Lulu222. I hope things work out.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for me. I'm going to have ACL reconstruction in December. The orthopedic surgeon is in sports medicine at a world renowned clinic near here. She was on TV not too long ago too talking about ACL repairs.

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Old 11-07-2008, 04:57 PM   #6
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Thanks Taimse. I hope you have the results from your surgery that I have heard some others. That they feel so much better than before. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, too.
My MRI didn't show any problems that require surgery. The doctor injected cortizone into the swollen area of the calf, in the tendon, and after a couple of days it feels better. I'm cautiously optimistic. He said the knobby bone below the knee is the top of the tibia and he doesn't know why it feels that it's out of place.
He did say I'd have to go back to my first surgeon. That he couldn't take on another doctors patient since that would prevent him for having time for his. own. When I commented that maybe that is why my surgeon didn't have time for me, he did tell me to come back in a month and said I needed to stay on light duty till then. I hope that means he'll take me on if I anything happens in the future. I can't go back to the first, especially now he knows I went for a second opinion.
Again, I hope your procedure can solve your issues. Give an update when you can. Take care.

 
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