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Old 04-01-2012, 10:51 AM   #1
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I really need some help

I'm trying to figure out the reasoning behind my new pain, so I am just going to paint you a picture and hope you can tell me where you think the pain is coming from (nerves, muscle, bones, etc.) I do have arthritis, narrowing, bulging discs, ddd, pinched nerves and lord only knows what else in my lumbar spine.

Ok, here's my problem...
Example: I walk around the store getting groceries. The outside of my thighs & hips start to hurt and burn (nothing new), when it reaches the point of being miserable, I call it quits and head to the check out. I understand all of that, now is where the "new problem" starts...

When I lift & move my leg outward to get into the car, the very top of my inner thighs (I do mean very top and very inner) has so much pain that I can barely stand to get into the car. When I get home, same thing trying to get out of the car with the other leg. Then, I look like a wobbly little duck trying to walk into the house. I want to say that it's just about the worst pain I've ever had aside from broken ribs, and it's almost that painful. I'd fall to the ground screaming, but I wouldn't be able to get back up...lol.

It's not a burning, tingling, or shooting pain. The only way I can explain it is like someone tried to make a wish with my legs thinking they were a wishbone, and the pain is like all the muscles, tendons or whatever have been strained. It's extremely painful. The pain does ease up after a day or so, until I need to get in and out of the car again. It never totally goes away.

Can you have inner upper thigh pain like that from a hip or spine problem, or should I maybe run to the dr?

 
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Re: I really need some help

some years ago, i experienced that same kind of pain. it was my sciatica nerve in the lower back. didn't know back then that i had the beginning of sjogrens and that could have been causing the inflammation. that's exactly what happens to the sciatic nerve...it gets inflamed. if you do go to the doc, they will probably give you an anti-inflammatory medicine. try something like ibuprofen or advil and see if it gives you some relief. if it does...then i would say that's probably what you're experiencing. i was so bad that i could barely take steps and definitely would almost scream if i had to get in a car or sit down. try sitting on your seat with your butt first and then swing both legs in with the help of your arms and hands. that's the only way i could get in my car without screaming. hope this helps. search the web for symptoms of an inflamed sciatica nerve and see if it's the same as what you're experiencing. good luck.

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Hi kenzibenzi:
If I were you I would get an x-ray of both hips. Start with your regular MD and see what he or she thinks. Please let us know what you find out.

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Re: I really need some help

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Thank you for the reply. I do have a lot of problems with the sciatic nerve, but never thought it could hurt me on the inner thighs...this sucks. As for the car thing, we have an explorer, there is no way for me to just sit on my butt and turn, I have to climb up in it. I do take ibuprofen with out relief. I see a new doc in two weeks, guessing this will be our first conversation.

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I'm seeing a new doc in two weeks, I will definitely make this our first topic of discussion. I just feel so defeated with it most days.

Thanks so much for the reply's! ~hugs, Kenzi.

 
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Re: I really need some help

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Thank you for the reply. I do have a lot of problems with the sciatic nerve, but never thought it could hurt me on the inner thighs...this sucks. As for the car thing, we have an explorer, there is no way for me to just sit on my butt and turn, I have to climb up in it. I do take ibuprofen with out relief. I see a new doc in two weeks, guessing this will be our first conversation.

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I'm seeing a new doc in two weeks, I will definitely make this our first topic of discussion. I just feel so defeated with it most days.

Thanks so much for the reply's! ~hugs, Kenzi.

Hi again kenzi:

When I was to come home from the rehab facility after having my first hip replacement, my grand daughter came to pick me up in an SUV - I don't know what the name of the model was. I thought I would never be able to get in a vehicle that high, but I was able to back up to the passenger seat and get in that way. One of the therapists came along to make sure I could get in - and I did! So I don't know if your vehicle is too high or not. Maybe I am taller than you - I am about 5 feet 5 and a half.

Before I had my hips replaced, I had terrible pains in both thighs at night - I did get some pain killers from my regular doctor but nothing touched it until he tried Percocet - and for some reason that worked. I got four nights of good sleep which also took away the terrible pains. They had been so bad at night tht I could not find any position that was comfortable and I spent sleepless nights just suffering! I would get up and pace the floor but that didn't help either. Actually, nothing helped.

Well, we all are different and I am recounting my experience only to give you some idea of how much pain osteoarthritic hips can cause. During the day I had no problem though. It was at night and it was misery. I had no idea that I needed new hips. But an x-ray showed I had little or no cartilage in my hips - one was much worse than the other and that hip was replaced first.

So keep us posted!

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Re: I really need some help

Can the cartilage thing show up in an xray? The last hip xray I had was about 3 years ago, all they said was "nothing is broken or fractured, everything is in place and you have osteoarthritis." I am, I would guess about 80% worse today. I too am miserable at night. If I lay on my sides, the nerve pain is in my hips/thighs, if I lay on my back it's in my butt and lower back. When I'm on my sides I can not even lift my legs off one another. They hurt so bad so I just roll over...lol. Just seems like my last dr didn't listen to me. She is in her late 20's and doesn't really understand the pain. I'm hoping my new dr will listen to me.

and... I'm 5'3". Haven't been able to scoot in butt first into the vehicle.

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Re: I really need some help

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Can the cartilage thing show up in an xray? The last hip xray I had was about 3 years ago, all they said was "nothing is broken or fractured, everything is in place and you have osteoarthritis." I am, I would guess about 80% worse today. I too am miserable at night. If I lay on my sides, the nerve pain is in my hips/thighs, if I lay on my back it's in my butt and lower back. When I'm on my sides I can not even lift my legs off one another. They hurt so bad so I just roll over...lol. Just seems like my last dr didn't listen to me. She is in her late 20's and doesn't really understand the pain. I'm hoping my new dr will listen to me.

and... I'm 5'3". Haven't been able to scoot in butt first into the vehicle.
Hi kenzi:
Yes, the condition of cartilage definitely does show up on x-rays! They will tell the story. That is the first thing my hip surgeon did - make some x-rays even though my regular doctor had had some made too. The hip surgeon knew instantly that I needed new hips and asked me if I wanted to have them and I sure said yes!! I had already decided that if that was the verdict I wanted the replacements. So I had made up my mind ahead of time.

Wow - you are really much shorter than I am and I can see how you can't back up to the car seat. Too bad.

Can you see a hip surgeon on your own or do you have to have a referral from your regular doctor? Insurance plans often differ on this.

My regular doctor was a man and past middle age and he knew exactly how much pain I was having. Just wait till your woman doctor puts on a few more decades and she will know about arthritic pain.

Please keep us posted. We all learn from each other here.

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Re: I really need some help

I see my new dr on the 11th, not far off. If she doesn't give me some sort of help (xrays, mri, pain meds, referral, preferably all of the above...lol) I will have a break down! I literally feel like everything that is attached to the bones is slowly tearing away. I have medicare, so I think I can see who ever I want, although many places want a referral from your primary care doc, that's been my experience anyway.

Thanks so much for talking at length with me about this, I REALLY appreciate it. I try and talk to my husband, but all he hears is "my legs hurt". Unless you know a little something of the part and the workings of things it's just words.

I just know I'm so tired of hearing "it's just normal wear and tear from aging, and you'll have to live with it". I'm 52.

How do I find a hip surgeon? Would it be listed under "hip surgeons?" Would they see me to evaluate me even though I am not set up for a hip replacement?

 
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I see my new dr on the 11th, not far off. If she doesn't give me some sort of help (xrays, mri, pain meds, referral, preferably all of the above...lol) I will have a break down! I literally feel like everything that is attached to the bones is slowly tearing away. I have medicare, so I think I can see who ever I want, although many places want a referral from your primary care doc, that's been my experience anyway.

Thanks so much for talking at length with me about this, I REALLY appreciate it. I try and talk to my husband, but all he hears is "my legs hurt". Unless you know a little something of the part and the workings of things it's just words.

I just know I'm so tired of hearing "it's just normal wear and tear from aging, and you'll have to live with it". I'm 52.

How do I find a hip surgeon? Would it be listed under "hip surgeons?" Would they see me to evaluate me even though I am not set up for a hip replacement?
Hi kenzi:

There is no reason why we have to live with pain no matter what our ages are.
We listen to our bodies and when they hurt, there is something wrong and we need to find out what it is.

Husbands are not well known for "hearing" our reports of aches and pains. At least that was my experience (widow now). One great thing about health forums is that our words are read by those who have "been there, done that".

Orthopedists are "bone doctors".

I had a Medicare Advantage plan that covered my hip replacements. I too am under Medicare and then the Advantage plan has its own requirements in addition to basic Medicare.These plans differ so much. You have to read what benefits are given.

You might want to make some phone calls to doctors and ask about evaluations.

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Thank you for the reply. I do have a lot of problems with the sciatic nerve, but never thought it could hurt me on the inner thighs...this sucks. As for the car thing, we have an explorer, there is no way for me to just sit on my butt and turn, I have to climb up in it. I do take ibuprofen with out relief. I see a new doc in two weeks, guessing this will be our first conversation.

sliver swan:
I'm seeing a new doc in two weeks, I will definitely make this our first topic of discussion. I just feel so defeated with it most days.

Thanks so much for the reply's! ~hugs, Kenzi.
okay...now that you've said that you have osteoarthritis....it is an inflammation. i have advanced osteo and i pretty much cured the pain in about 3 weeks. the physiotherapist told me to get a skiing glider machine and go on that several times a day. i bought something called a skyglider....same motion as skiing and it worked....perfectly. whenever i get that same pain, i just get back on it again. i have no grizzle left in my joints and haven't since i was in my early forties, but they won't replace anything on me cause they say i'm too young. specialists tend to wait until you can no longer walk....at all before they will replace them. honestly....since i have had that machine...i haven't had the severe hip pains or flareups of sciatica. see if you have a friend that you can use their ski glider. the reason it's so good is because there's no impact and it actually helps to lubricate the joints. another thing you can try taking is glucosamine. that is supposed to keep the joints lubricated too. with both of these....i'll bet you'll solve your problem.

 
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Re: I really need some help

I started on 800mg Motrin tonight, maybe I wasn't taking enough before or regularly. I'm going to stay on 800mg 3 times a day until I see my new doc on the 11th. Thank you so much for all the knowledge and advice. I will let you know if the doc orders any xrays or anything. I don't have the funds to buy any exercise equipment. I'm walking in the MS walk at the end of April, so I need to get this pain under control.

Does walking help keep the joint lubricated?

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I see my new dr on the 11th, not far off. If she doesn't give me some sort of help (xrays, mri, pain meds, referral, preferably all of the above...lol) I will have a break down! I literally feel like everything that is attached to the bones is slowly tearing away. I have medicare, so I think I can see who ever I want, although many places want a referral from your primary care doc, that's been my experience anyway.

Thanks so much for talking at length with me about this, I REALLY appreciate it. I try and talk to my husband, but all he hears is "my legs hurt". Unless you know a little something of the part and the workings of things it's just words.

I just know I'm so tired of hearing "it's just normal wear and tear from aging, and you'll have to live with it". I'm 52.

How do I find a hip surgeon? Would it be listed under "hip surgeons?" Would they see me to evaluate me even though I am not set up for a hip replacement?
just a note kenzi. you're only 52 and you're already opting for replacements. i hope you realize that hip and knee replacements generally last about 10 years and then depending on the condtion of them from natural breakdown from your bodies defenses...you have to have them replaced again. what if you live until your 90? that's a lot of operations. that's why the doc's won't do mine now. i'm 55 now and they still wont' consider it. there are alternatives as i explained in the other post. don't you think that trying a few more natural remedies first, might be a better solution than having major surgery? my landlady where i live has now had 32 operations on her one leg which started with replacing bones and now, there's not enough live bone to replace anymore. she may have to have her leg amputated in the near future. just a concern. of course i can't tell you how to treat your body. but i know i live pretty much pain free now, with just a simple machine and the right amount of vitamins and supplements. i refuse to be used as a pin cushion until i have no other alternatives and i'm not ready to give up anything that i want to do in my life right now. anyway....all the best with whatever decision you make.

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I wasn't opting for any replacements, I was opting for an evaluation by someone with experience in the hips to get to the bottom of my problem. No where did I say that I wanted to replace anything.

 
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I started on 800mg Motrin tonight, maybe I wasn't taking enough before or regularly. I'm going to stay on 800mg 3 times a day until I see my new doc on the 11th. Thank you so much for all the knowledge and advice. I will let you know if the doc orders any xrays or anything. I don't have the funds to buy any exercise equipment. I'm walking in the MS walk at the end of April, so I need to get this pain under control.

Does walking help keep the joint lubricated?
not really because it still puts impact on your joints just from your body weight. the ski machines have no involvement other than standing on pads that rotate your hips back and forth. some of us tend to walk more on our heels and others walk more on the balls of their feet. there is always a type of impact that way. the ski machine is just a glider and there's a bar or ski like handles that you can hang on to so that you don't have to apply all of your weight. try looking on a site that sells used equipment. my skyglider only cost about $125 canadian when i bought it. you may find something much cheaper that is used but still in good shape. just look for ski machines or sky gliders and definitely try the glucosamine. best of luck.

 
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Re: I really need some help

Hi there -- I've been struggling with hip pain since age 14, and I'm 35 now. I've had 3 hip arthroscopies, which can be a good intermediate measure to preserve the joint. If you have a couple of areas where the cartilage is worn, doctors can create a microfracture to force the body to create replacement cartilage. In addition, if you have a bone spur exacerbating your pain, it can be trimmed away. My third scope showed that half of my acetabular cartilage had pulled away from the bone, but was still in the joint. I am now waiting for the surgery to take effect and the cartilage to reattach. In addition, resurfacings are being recommended for younger folks, as they don't require removal of as much bone, which makes revisions easier. Short of replacement, there are a lot of things that can be done surgically.

In addition, there are some conservative measures that help: The glider described, an exercise bike with the seat up high so that your knees don't come to a 90 degree angle, or an elliptical machine will all provide hip motion to lubricate the joint and may help. Another low cost option is a foot pedaler -- I think they cost $10-15 and allow you to pedal your feet while sitting on the couch. Your insurance might cover some part of the cost if prescribed for a specific condition. You can also just stand on one foot and make small circles with the other leg -- free but not as effective.

Keeping the legs equally stretched may help. My hamstrings are super-tight because of my back issues, so I try to keep them stretched. Physical therapy may be another option to strengthen the muscles that support the joint to take pressure off the interior of the joint.

When getting in your tall vehicle, if you have running boards, you might use those to back your way into your seat, along with the handle on the door, the strap over the door, and the steering wheel. I told my husband that we could not buy an SUV for this very reason, but maybe you can concoct another way to get in that's easier than the traditional approach. (Or tell husband that if he doesn't want to hear about your pain to help you in the car.) Fortunately, my husband is sympathetic even though he doesn't "get" my pain. He is the biggest baby when he gets sick, even a tiny cold.

Fingers crossed that your X-rays show that you still have good joint space. This seems to be the biggest factor in determining which options you have available.

 
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