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cloggedme352 07-01-2009 05:17 PM

wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
I've been wondering if I have some severe form of learning disability, but I doubt I've really been tested as to whether I have one. I've been to many therapists who didn't seem to know what to do with me and didn't know enough about my problems. I've been very confused and bewildered as to what mental impairment I have, and whether I could even fall into any diagnostic category. I have wondered over the years about whether I had many disorders, through trying to see if I fit criteria. My situation of impairments and the accompanying circumstances have been very unusual. I don't know where to go to find the right professional help for me, where they would really come to an understanding of what is wrong with me, or who would tell me that there is no kind of diagnosis possible for me if that is the case. I wonder if someone here could tell me whether or not I likely technically have a learning disability or some other disorder. I lack many basic skills and mess up just about any task and can't rely on myself to do anything right. I think my impairments started when I was about 3 with speech problems, that I think partly involved me repeating phrases of other children I interacted with back then.

I think I was kind of traumatized and scared in my early years due to the consequences of my weaknesses, and had a hard time adjusting to my earliest years at school. I was in special ed in 1st and 2nd grade during which I had some kind of speech class. After that, I still had a lot of difficulty in school, a lot of it with lack of paying attention. I would lose my place and then do/say something messed up, and others would point out what I was supposed to be doing. A lot of the time growing up, I've kept to myself and tried to stay out of what other children were doing. I've always had poor reading comprehension, and was in remedial reading during 4th and 5th grade. A lot of times throughout school, I didn't understand the things I was to learn or really get how to do a lot of schoolwork. Much of the time, I kinda got by with moderate grades. I've been to college and got a B.S. degree, but I only did moderately well throughout my years in college, don't think I learned a lot, and many times performed weakly due to difficulty and confusion, and I only did really well here and there and not consistently, and sometimes I got by on work I didn't truly complete. I've consistently performed weakly during my years in school at doing lab coursework in science courses. I've never really done well on standardized tests. My poor reading comprehension has gotten much worse in the past couple of years. My memory hasn't been that good and has also become worse lately.

I always have had a lot of social and communication impairments such as lack of ability to read body language and inability to converse with and greet others. I have a low vocabulary, am bad at verbalizing things. I have deficient writing skills, including anything involving creativity. I have many speech problems, where I can't articulate enough, can't find the right words or combination of words to express what I'm trying to tell or ask. I'm so incoherent many times, that people repeat what I say so others who didn't understand can hear. People don't understand what I say, and others would interpret it for others who didn't understand me. I tend to be slow at answering people's questions, and sometimes others answer questions for me because of my lack of response. I don't always realize that someone is talking to me, and other people have to tell me that I'm being talked to or they answer for me. I also sometimes think someone is talking to me and I answer them when they're really asking someone else something. When I'm not sure if they're talking to me, I sometimes hesitate, and if they were talking to me, someone else might answer for me. I also have a hard time understanding and absorbing what people are saying. I also misunderstand questions and answer them like they asked me something else.

I have a lot of coordination problems. I can't do many tasks with my hands well and couldn't learn to drive. I think there was also too much multitasking involved in that and many other tasks for me. I never learned to play sports and don't completely know how they're played. I don't think I can follow all of the things that go on when sports are played. It was so confusing to me and I have been hit in the head with balls before. I also frequently misunderstand and am confused by directions, oral and written. I feel as if I need things explained to me explicitly and very slowly. Doing things in school and at work, those few times I managed to briefly hold and gain a menial job, have been very hard and unsuccessful for me.

I mess up a lot of things too. I've had troubles with using telephones. One time I messed with some switch on it for some reason, which I didn't know at the time was a ringer, and then it didn't work. Sometimes I forget to use area codes when necessary, and talking on the phone is also confusing for me. I even had trouble opening a door somewhere once, and someone opened it for me. I don't know how to make a lot of purchases on my own. I am confused at restaurants a lot too, where I become confused at when exactly to say my order and don't know that sometimes I'm supposed to indicate which order was mine when the food comes. Others I'm with have to help me with that. How and when to pay would confuse me too. I wouldn't know what to do at a bar. Sometimes I accidentally touch or try to use things that aren't mine, but aren't and only looked like mine. I also have forgotten to take things of my own with me, and others would remind me. I don't always realize that I'm in someone's way and someone else alerts me about it. Sometimes I say stupid things that don't make sense or that are unfounded and are idiotically came up with. I one time forgot to pay for something before I walked past the payment counter because I was looking at it on line. Another time I forgot to take something out of the shopping basket to pay for it before the other things were paid for. I mess up at many other facilities that I have been to. Sometimes I walk in the wrong direction from not remembering where I was to go or from getting confused about what path I need to walk in, and others redirect me.

For a long time, I've usually kept myself withdrawn from people and many activities because I can't handle them. I know I wouldn't have any success, and would just mess things up, and that I can't learn to do a lot of things. I have tried having friends and doing more things before, but it was such a disaster, I went away from it. I am currently 25, and I am without skills for even simple employment and don't even know how to look for a job right and go through the application and interview process in a sufficient manner. I have been unemployed for over 2 years and have spend most of my time at home. There are a lot of other details about my circumstances and problems that may need to be considered.

Ihatecats 08-06-2009 02:43 PM

Re: wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
I to had learning problem back in high school because when my mom and dad got a divorcse my mom took me out of schools so many times from the grade 5 to grade 8th grade i went to so many different schools i'm sersrpised i gratuated from high schools see i some time to miss spell words to. your not alone there are alot of people like you and me and alot more than you think!:wave:

artsy70 08-23-2009 09:00 AM

Re: wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
I would firstly suggest to you to go to a psycholgist not therapist, that does testing for LD in adults. I would then get a WEischler Adult intelligence scale done. Then depending upon the outcome other psychometric tests may be done. I realise this is expensive and insurance in some cases depending upon country may pay for this or not.
As a child did you get any psychometric test done, ie a Binet or a WISC III from a school pyshologist. digging these up may give some clues. To me your desrciptions could fit many Learning disabilities form NVLD to dyslexia, ADHD, to even autistic traits. The best way to clearly identify these is with a WAIS. a full psychological batter of tests, which a trained psychologist or psychiatrist can perform for you.I f you in fact have a specific language processing difficulty you would of as a child had a speech pathologist test.??
hope this helps. SO a speech pathologist and a psychologist is a good start.

cloggedme352 08-27-2009 10:32 PM

Re: wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
I'll likely be trying to get such testing when I can. I don't have insurance coverage and I don't have much money to spare currently. I'm considering trying to get some testing done when I get some vocational rehabilitation services. During my childhood, I had a lot of testing, but I'm not sure of what type. I may have had a WISC III done when I was 14 or at another time, but I'm not sure, and I'm not sure if it was given by a school psychologist. When I was about 5, I think I had some sort of test where they would have me repeat words that I was listening to being said by someone in a different room I think. I'll be trying to get copies of the testing that was done on me if I can.

pigletsfriend 12-04-2009 10:48 AM

Re: wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
[QUOTE=cloggedme352;4026935]I've been wondering if I have some severe form of learning disability, but I doubt I've really been tested as to whether I have one. I've been to many therapists who didn't seem to know what to do with me and didn't know enough about my problems. I've been very confused and bewildered as to what mental impairment I have, and whether I could even fall into any diagnostic category. I have wondered over the years about whether I had many disorders, through trying to see if I fit criteria. My situation of impairments and the accompanying circumstances have been very unusual. I don't know where to go to find the right professional help for me, where they would really come to an understanding of what is wrong with me, or who would tell me that there is no kind of diagnosis possible for me if that is the case. I wonder if someone here could tell me whether or not I likely technically have a learning disability or some other disorder. I lack many basic skills and mess up just about any task and can't rely on myself to do anything right. I think my impairments started when I was about 3 with speech problems, that I think partly involved me repeating phrases of other children I interacted with back then.

I think I was kind of traumatized and scared in my early years due to the consequences of my weaknesses, and had a hard time adjusting to my earliest years at school. I was in special ed in 1st and 2nd grade during which I had some kind of speech class. After that, I still had a lot of difficulty in school, a lot of it with lack of paying attention. I would lose my place and then do/say something messed up, and others would point out what I was supposed to be doing. A lot of the time growing up, I've kept to myself and tried to stay out of what other children were doing. I've always had poor reading comprehension, and was in remedial reading during 4th and 5th grade. A lot of times throughout school, I didn't understand the things I was to learn or really get how to do a lot of schoolwork. Much of the time, I kinda got by with moderate grades. I've been to college and got a B.S. degree, but I only did moderately well throughout my years in college, don't think I learned a lot, and many times performed weakly due to difficulty and confusion, and I only did really well here and there and not consistently, and sometimes I got by on work I didn't truly complete. I've consistently performed weakly during my years in school at doing lab coursework in science courses. I've never really done well on standardized tests. My poor reading comprehension has gotten much worse in the past couple of years. My memory hasn't been that good and has also become worse lately.

I always have had a lot of social and communication impairments such as lack of ability to read body language and inability to converse with and greet others. I have a low vocabulary, am bad at verbalizing things. I have deficient writing skills, including anything involving creativity. I have many speech problems, where I can't articulate enough, can't find the right words or combination of words to express what I'm trying to tell or ask. I'm so incoherent many times, that people repeat what I say so others who didn't understand can hear. People don't understand what I say, and others would interpret it for others who didn't understand me. I tend to be slow at answering people's questions, and sometimes others answer questions for me because of my lack of response. I don't always realize that someone is talking to me, and other people have to tell me that I'm being talked to or they answer for me. I also sometimes think someone is talking to me and I answer them when they're really asking someone else something. When I'm not sure if they're talking to me, I sometimes hesitate, and if they were talking to me, someone else might answer for me. I also have a hard time understanding and absorbing what people are saying. I also misunderstand questions and answer them like they asked me something else.

I have a lot of coordination problems. I can't do many tasks with my hands well and couldn't learn to drive. I think there was also too much multitasking involved in that and many other tasks for me. I never learned to play sports and don't completely know how they're played. I don't think I can follow all of the things that go on when sports are played. It was so confusing to me and I have been hit in the head with balls before. I also frequently misunderstand and am confused by directions, oral and written. I feel as if I need things explained to me explicitly and very slowly. Doing things in school and at work, those few times I managed to briefly hold and gain a menial job, have been very hard and unsuccessful for me.

I mess up a lot of things too. I've had troubles with using telephones. One time I messed with some switch on it for some reason, which I didn't know at the time was a ringer, and then it didn't work. Sometimes I forget to use area codes when necessary, and talking on the phone is also confusing for me. I even had trouble opening a door somewhere once, and someone opened it for me. I don't know how to make a lot of purchases on my own. I am confused at restaurants a lot too, where I become confused at when exactly to say my order and don't know that sometimes I'm supposed to indicate which order was mine when the food comes. Others I'm with have to help me with that. How and when to pay would confuse me too. I wouldn't know what to do at a bar. Sometimes I accidentally touch or try to use things that aren't mine, but aren't and only looked like mine. I also have forgotten to take things of my own with me, and others would remind me. I don't always realize that I'm in someone's way and someone else alerts me about it. Sometimes I say stupid things that don't make sense or that are unfounded and are idiotically came up with. I one time forgot to pay for something before I walked past the payment counter because I was looking at it on line. Another time I forgot to take something out of the shopping basket to pay for it before the other things were paid for. I mess up at many other facilities that I have been to. Sometimes I walk in the wrong direction from not remembering where I was to go or from getting confused about what path I need to walk in, and others redirect me.

For a long time, I've usually kept myself withdrawn from people and many activities because I can't handle them. I know I wouldn't have any success, and would just mess things up, and that I can't learn to do a lot of things. I have tried having friends and doing more things before, but it was such a disaster, I went away from it. I am currently 25, and I am without skills for even simple employment and don't even know how to look for a job right and go through the application and interview process in a sufficient manner. I have been unemployed for over 2 years and have spend most of my time at home. There are a lot of other details about my circumstances and problems that may need to be considered.[/QUOTE]
i think you can right ok. well done but i think you have some mild AS as i do have all them syptems to but i can not spell right and things. i am late in my life and i am haveing a iq test in january to see what age ability i am they are just going to look in to it right now as i seem to not realy be moveing any more faward as since i left school i am a good single mum and i hate crowds of people and get just like you in other situatons i mange the kids well but always not organised. i live by routine and am now going to get some supor tin ths area. as my children are geting older now. i was told i have mild learning dic but i feel there is much more that some times so i will see. have you tryed to look at the autisic web sit? if not put it in the google search enjine it may help you and then see if a frend or family member can see if uou ca find a avocote start with a mental health one she will take you to a doctors with a frend or family member and tell her all this and let them get you some tests done it is a lot of form filling for your family and frends and one for you then lots of questions to you to. did you play as a child? i mean cold you play like my children do alone with dolls and thiings and talk to them think is is called imagintive play!!! i did not and i do not with my kids as i can not sit long enuf. hope you find ansers try the ADD sites to they help to and have a good look and see where you best fit i feel it is AS but i am not a profecal you need to specal doctor. piglets frend

cloggedme352 01-07-2010 12:54 AM

Re: wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
[QUOTE=pigletsfriend;4136849]i think you can right ok. well done but i think you have some mild AS as i do have all them syptems to but i can not spell right and things. i am late in my life and i am haveing a iq test in january to see what age ability i am they are just going to look in to it right now as i seem to not realy be moveing any more faward as since i left school i am a good single mum and i hate crowds of people and get just like you in other situatons i mange the kids well but always not organised. i live by routine and am now going to get some supor tin ths area. as my children are geting older now. i was told i have mild learning dic but i feel there is much more that some times so i will see. have you tryed to look at the autisic web sit? if not put it in the google search enjine it may help you and then see if a frend or family member can see if uou ca find a avocote start with a mental health one she will take you to a doctors with a frend or family member and tell her all this and let them get you some tests done it is a lot of form filling for your family and frends and one for you then lots of questions to you to. did you play as a child? i mean cold you play like my children do alone with dolls and thiings and talk to them think is is called imagintive play!!! i did not and i do not with my kids as i can not sit long enuf. hope you find ansers try the ADD sites to they help to and have a good look and see where you best fit i feel it is AS but i am not a profecal you need to specal doctor. piglets frend[/QUOTE]

I've looked at a lot of information on autism and AS. I have been to vocational rehabilitation services, and I was sent for testing. After the testing, the counselor told me that I was diagnosed with AS. I'm kinda surprised with that diagnosis in some ways, as my memory is mediocre and because my IQ is only 107. When I was told the results, I think I heard that my performance IQ is 91 but my verbal IQ is 119, so I wonder what that means. I was told about the lack of inflection in speech that I have and things like that, but I'm not sure if I am or would be like that all the time. But I do know that I have a lot of sensory sensitivities, sometimes repetitive interests, and I sometimes have self-stimulatory behavior. I'm not sure to what extent I have those characteristics though. When playing as a child, I think I did have a lot of imaginative play. I would play with some toys according to different scenarios. Sometimes I would play by mostly thinking of something even without many toys involved. I'll be going for a vocational evaluation soon to see what jobs I may be suited for.

Maybelline 05-01-2010 08:06 AM

Re: wondering if I have learning disability or something else
 
Dear Cloggedme 352:

I feel your pain and struggle with some of the same issues. I relate to having trouble coherantly speaking my thoughts to others. Often I am not understood and need to explain further which becomes annoying. It is difficult at times to write reports without leaving out important details. Overall have trouble with dealing with details.
Sometimes I am withdrawn. At other times I am very outgoing.

I am diagnosed with bipolar and ADHD. It took at least 10 years before I got the bipolar diagnosis. My more recent diagnosis is ADHD, and the symptoms have affected me for at least 17 years on the job but now I have a name for it which helps. It helps to know what you are dealing with.

You said that you have seen many therapists. Have you seen a psychiatrist? A psychiatrist can diagnosis you. You can't get a diagnosis via the web.

I treat with a psychiatrist, therapist and take medicine and go to support groups. I have some understanding friends which lend support. I need to work on my self-esteem and confidence, and learn more skills for coping on the job.

In your posting you have indicated many issues. Just as we all have issues we all have strenghts. I suggest that you look at your strengths for a more balanced view.

Good luck in your journey!

Maybelline:angel::


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