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Old 11-13-2006, 11:12 AM   #1
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Unhappy Just diagnosed W/Fatty Liver!! What now??

Hello to all,

I've just been diagnosed with a fatty liver, the Docs stumbled
across this while doing an abdominal ultrasound for polys in the stomache lining (they were benign!!). I have been taking vicodin for back pain for about a year now. I do drink alcohol on average about 2-4 glasses of wine per week and sometimes none. I am overweight and 40! It seems since turning 40...I'm falling apart!!! Not to mention..the STRESS I have been under has been tremendous!! So...my question is, would this fatty liver be from all the above, or just the being overweight? I have gained lots of weight (I think due to Nexium and Prevacid for the last 8-10yrs). My liver work-up came back good, not abnormal at all in that area. So what now?? Any input in APPRECIATED!! Thanks!!

 
Old 11-14-2006, 02:18 PM   #2
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Hello kymwho.

I can probably give you a little advice because I've also been diagnosed with fatty liver myself.

Fattyliver can be gotten through a number of different ways. Most commonly though, it's associated with being overweight or by drinking alcohol. Since you do both, it's likely to be either one of those as the main cause.

What happens is you get fatty infiltration of your liver cells and over time, it will lead to a hardening of the liver. It is quite dangerous if left unchecked, so if you can, you need to make changes right now.

The liver is actually a very resiliant organ in the body and can recover from damage from fatty liver as long as you are proactive about it and do the right things.

Firstly, quite drinking alcohol - period. Not even a drop. It can be very hard for some people to effectively go cold turkey like this and some medical practitioners will advise the odd glass won't hurt, but seriously, don't take the risk. If you're fatty liver is a result of drinking, by simply stopping drinking you can fix the problem.

If it's from being overweight, you need to change your diet to a low fat one. Eat plenty of fresh fruit and veg, avoid processed foods where you can. Drink plenty of water (about 2 litres a day is good) and eat low fat foods. Fish is really good as well (whole or filleted). Avoid fatty or greasy foods as much as possible, don't use things like butter or margarine. The idea is to remove as much fat from your diet as you possibly can because it's just going to keep building up in your liver - and with your liver already fatty, it's struggling to process what you already have.

You also need to introduce some weight reduction exercise into your day. Fatty liver can come about by being as little as 10% over weight and it's very important you do what you can to reduce weight. Do it gradually though - losing too much weight too quickly isn't actually good for you either. You will find that going for a good 30 minute walk each day along with a low fat diet will be enough to reduce your weight.

Besides a low fat diet and regular exercise, there's little more you can do in order to treat Fatty liver. There's no medication you can take to help at this stage, so it's a fairly slow recovery process. However you can take a Milk Thistle supplement which is what I do three times daily. The jury is still out on how much it helps, but the fact is, I noticed a considerable difference in my liver enzyme tests after I started taking it, so I can definitely recommend it. Milk Thistle has an active ingredient in it called Silybum, which is shown to protect new liver cells from damage. It's a natural supplement that has been used as far back as the Roman era for the treatment of liver diseases.

As I mentioned before, I had also been diagnosed with Fatty liver (mine was from being overweight) about 5 months ago. I was very very sick during this time with a number of different symptoms (nausea, dizzyness, chest and tummy pain, digestive problems, headaches, right rib soreness etc etc) - it was a horrible experience. But with a good diet and regular exercise under the supervision of a heptologist (liver specialist) I have been able to get my liver enzymes back down to NORMAL again and I'm much better for it. I lost 27kgs (from 105kgs down to 78kgs) and have a lot more energy than before.

It's a horrible disease to get, but you can get over it with time and dedication.

Hang in there and don't be afraid to chat about what you're going through. Anything to do with liver can be scary and I found it was through talking with people I was able to get through it all.

Best wishes and good luck.

 
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:24 AM   #3
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Re: Just diagnosed W/Fatty Liver!! What now??

WOW!! you seem well educated on this topic, I've learned alot, thanks!

Also, I've already begin the change in my diet, no alcohol, low fat and so forth. My brother informed me he also has a fatty liver, could the be genetic?

Again, Thank You for reading and posting!!

Kymwho

 
Old 11-15-2006, 01:07 PM   #4
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genetic? I don't know about that. It would depend on what causes the fatty liver to begin with to be honest.

I only know what I know because I got sick with the same thing - and when you get a serious illness, you read a LOT to find out what's going on.

Fatty Liver disease is actually very very common - in fact, about 20% of the entire adult population gets it at some point, which is commonly attributed to poor diets, lack of exercise or regular intake of alcohol. It's worth keeping this in mind when you realise that in the next 20 years it's predicted that obesity related diseases (ie liver disease, diabetes and heart disease) will take over at the number one killer in developed nations in the world.

Take the time to care for your health.

Best of luck!

 
Old 11-24-2006, 09:12 PM   #5
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but its HARD!!! lol

what do you do for exercise? can you recomend any work out tapes for me?

 
Old 11-28-2006, 07:38 AM   #6
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daniel m. I've been having a lot of lightheadedness, headaches, chest pain, stomach pain, etc. I have been to all kinds of specialists like neurologists, neurosurgeons, cardiologists, etc. Noone can give me a reason for all of this. I had an ultrasound of my gallbladder done a few months ago, because I have pain on my right side a lot, and they found fat spots on my liver. I'm female, 36 5f4in and weigh 250. The lightheadedness and headaches are so bad that doing anything is hard . I stay in the house now due to them. Could this be from the fatty liver? My doctors nurse said not to worry about it. She read the report and called. I have no idea what the doctor said about it. Should I question him on this? What do you think?

 
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Re: Just diagnosed W/Fatty Liver!! What now??

kim,

You will have to give up the vicodin. The carrier for the hydrocodone is ACETAMINOPHEN whuch is extraordinarily hard on the liver.

Replace it with another anagesic without acet, there are lots of them.

 
Old 12-11-2006, 07:48 PM   #8
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but its HARD!!! lol

what do you do for exercise? can you recomend any work out tapes for me?
I walk! That's it! Bugger the exercise tapes, gym or workouts. Nope, you really don't need them. I walk for between 1 and 2 hours per day, 5 days a week. (I walk to the station to catch the train to work, from the station to work, 3 times a day during breaks/lunch whilst at work and then home again). It's what they call a 'slow burn' in that it's low impact, but burns the fat slowly. It's less stressful on the body than a hard workout and if you're over weight, makes the transition a lot easier. It's less stressful on the joints and heart, whilst helping circulation and burning those extra calories.

I've lost 30 kilos in the last 6 months just from walking and a good diet.

Seriously, don't do anything crazy or anything you won't keep up for the long term. Just walking regularly can be relaxing (I tend to do a lot of thinking whilst out for a wander) and it does the job.

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daniel m. I've been having a lot of lightheadedness, headaches, chest pain, stomach pain, etc. I have been to all kinds of specialists like neurologists, neurosurgeons, cardiologists, etc. Noone can give me a reason for all of this. I had an ultrasound of my gallbladder done a few months ago, because I have pain on my right side a lot, and they found fat spots on my liver. I'm female, 36 5f4in and weigh 250. The lightheadedness and headaches are so bad that doing anything is hard . I stay in the house now due to them. Could this be from the fatty liver? My doctors nurse said not to worry about it. She read the report and called. I have no idea what the doctor said about it. Should I question him on this? What do you think?
Okay, I don't have a gall bladder anymore, so I can't say what it might be. As with all things, you really need to get proper testing done to get any real diagnosis - I'm not a medical practitioner and any suggestion I make is merely on heresay and my own limited point of view.

That said, a fatty liver can definitely cause the symptoms you're experiencing - I know because I had the same thing and it caused me a lot of panic too. My fatty liver was picked up on the very first ultrasound I had along with a CT Scan to confirm - but I had all those other horrid symptoms so they began running a string of tests to rule out what else might be causing it (including head CTs, Cholangeograms, Endoscopy, Xrays, Blood Tests, Urine and Stool sample testing... you name it!) and at the end of the day the only problem I had was a fatty liver.

I would definitely look at losing the extra weight and get onto a good diet. I reckon the combination of modern lifestyle along with the crap they put into processed foods (and I mean not only sugar, salt and fats but also the chemicals and preservatives too!) is what's making us sick.

It's been 6 months now since I was first diagnosed and in that time I've made the lifestyle changes I needed to get better. I've lost a lot of weight and eat well and get regular exercise and I just got back my latest liver screen last week which showed my ALTs and liver function to be NORMAL once more. I still have the occasional twinge under the right rib and a little itching on the extremities, but other than that I feel great and a lot better than I did before.

So if you have been diagnosed with a fatty liver, don't fret! I read a lot about people getting it but not much about what to do and how to get over it and how long it takes when I was really sick and found it discouraging - So I'm here to tell you that you can get over it and back to normal, but it takes a long time and real dedication to do it!

Be sure to maintain regular contact with your doctor and work through the entire process with them. Some days are really hard and you wonder if you'll ever get through it, but you can and will - it just takes what seems like forever is all.

Best wishes everyone and good luck. Fatty liver is truly a crappy disease to get and it affects everyone differently, it's important to recognise and treat it seriously and get yourself better. Dying from liver failure is not a nice way to go for anyone, but fatty liver is a good warning sign your liver needs help - so don't ignore it!

 
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:07 AM   #9
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Wow, this is great. My Dr. and I thought that I had gall stones because I have sever pain on my right side especially when I eat fatty foods, and I get nausea if I eat too much rich food etcc...all the symptoms that you have experienced. The ultrasound came back showing no gallstones but a substantially fatty liver, though not enlarged. So I asked my DR. what this meant and he said that I eat overly healthy? and to cought back on the fat intake a bit and I should be fine. Well after reading a few articles I now know that I really need to lose weight and cut back greatly on my fat intake. I am 5"1" and weigh 208 lbs. So yeah I need to lose weight, but now I know why it has been harder for me than others. My dr. is sending me to a specialist at the end of the month, I am going to take in info on this disease, I think he deals with stomach problems and not liver not sure, but anyway I just want to prepared. At least now I know that I do have a problem and I am not just a hypochondraic complaining of sore stomach.

 
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