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Old 07-29-2012, 01:51 AM   #1
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Pain under lower left ribcage

Hey.
Not sure if this has already been discussed but for the past week i have been experiencing a nagging pain under my lower left ribcage (almost like ive been kicked in the ribs).
It came up out of nowhere and is aggrevated by lifting, dragging etc and coughing to the point where it becomes extremely painful.
It is accompanied by lower back aches and not entirely comfortable...

Any ideas??

 
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:45 AM   #2
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

The area of the lower left rib cage is rather unique in that there are not a lot of organs there to become symptomatic other than the spleen or perhaps the ribs themselves.

It's possible you've pulled intercostal muscles or damaged cartilage in your ribs, which would be aggravated by lifting, dragging and coughing; but if the pain is definitely inside/under your ribs the spleen is the only thing there.

An angry liver can cause an enlarged spleen, but so can infection and a few other more scary prospects like leukemia and lymphoma. You shouldn't be able to feel a normal spleen with your fingers by pushing about under the ribs, but a doctor or perhaps even you might be able to feel an enlarged spleen this way. An enlarged spleen will also sometimes "click" or rub against the lower margin of your rib cage when you lean to the left and then back upright from a sitting position.

A blood panel would rule out some of the more scary stuff, and an ultrasound would confirm whether or not your spleen is enlarged, as well as some possible hepatic/liver causes. Both these diagnostics are quick, cheap, easy and not painful (unless you've got needle issues), so a doctor shouldn't mind ordering these.

If you think it is possible your pain is actually coming from your ribs, it should be safe to suffer through a couple more weeks to see if this gets better, but if you feel like this pain is really inside your abdomen, a trip to the doc would be wise.

 
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

The last two ribs on bottom are "floating" attached to the ribs above by cartilage. Sometimes the cartilage gets inflamed or even separated by trauma or heavy exertion and can hurt significantly. Some anti inflammatory med like ibuprofen would help if that were the case. The other thing to consider since you have some back pain there would be something with the left kidney. I would notice if you have any urinary symptoms at all and get that checked by Dr if so. Also previous post about spleen is good and unless it is clearly rib related, I would see Dr. Rib pain would cause tenderness with pressing on ribs where it hurts. If it feels deeper, inside, needs medical attention.

 
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:32 AM   #4
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

When I had lower left rib pain the doctor told me that it was intestinal spasms. Now the pain has shifted more to the right side of the left ribcage. After reading the responses you have gotten from others I am becoming worried. It is more of an uncomfortable pressure not a stabbing pain. Also, at times it goes away. Is your pain constant? Doctor never mentioned spleen or liver and now anxiety is starting!

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:26 PM   #5
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When I had lower left rib pain the doctor told me that it was intestinal spasms. Now the pain has shifted more to the right side of the left ribcage. After reading the responses you have gotten from others I am becoming worried. It is more of an uncomfortable pressure not a stabbing pain. Also, at times it goes away. Is your pain constant? Doctor never mentioned spleen or liver and now anxiety is starting!
I also have been having issues with a 'fullness/pressure' feeling under my lower left ribs. I have some diarrhea issues, and my appetite is down, as well. I had some lab tests done yesterday that came back with my AST down to 10, my bilirubin up at 1.09 and indirect bilirubin up at 0.96. I used to sleep on my left side all the time, but the fullness bothers me, so I now sleep on my right side which is really odd to me. I don't have actual pain, a dull achy pain I guess is what I would describe it but the fullness/pressure feeling is mainly my issue. What could this be? I am anxiety ridden now thinking it could be related to my pancreas?

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:03 PM   #6
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

I don't think there is any significance to a low AST. Many labs use a low limit of 5, so 10 is fine. It is only when it is high that it indicates a problem. The elevated indirect bilirubin could mean you are breaking down RBCs faster than usual (hemolysis). It can also be elevated in some people, usually males, with Gilbert syndrome, a benign condition that causes minimal elevations in bilirubin and no treatment is required. Since the spleen is where RBCs are broken down, and that is where the discomfort is, I would make sure your spleen is checked by physical exam. An ultrasound can be helpful as well as a Coombs test to see if you are making antibodies against your RBCs, causing faster breakdown. You can also ask your Dr to check an amylase to check out the pancreas.

 
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Old 06-01-2014, 03:46 PM   #7
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

I've had pain which appears to be at the bottom two left ribs off and on for over a year. Sometimes there is no pain at all, other times I not only have pain but also shortness of breath (like today). I have seen TEN doctors (one referring me to another) and no definite diagnosis. The Rheumatologist "guessed" (his word) that it might be Fibromyalgia, another said possibly Pleurisy. Others "just don't know". I have had much blood work done, EGD, EKG, ct scan, xrays, and an MRI of spine. I have seen Rheumatologist, Cardiologist, Neurologist, Urologist, GYN and every other OLOGIST there is, still don't know anything definite. I have a very high pain tolerance but when it causes shortness of breath, this is unnerving. Is it impossible to get a definite diagnosis from doctors anymore?? I've had to cancel trips, alter my everyday routine and workout program because of this.
Would appreciate your input, especially if those of you commenting on rib pain have shortness of breath along with it.

 
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:18 AM   #8
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

i also have constant pain under my left breast/rib cage area, radiating around my back from time to time. the tip of the pancreas is located there...and i have a deformed pancreas (birth defect). between that and my paralyzed left side diaphragm (diaphragm pushed up high into a small mass of muscle n tissue) in the same area, my drs think this causes my pain. i also have ibs which doesnt help !

don't give up and keep searching for answers.....learned the hard way that one has to be their own health advocate and bring questions ideas and info to all dr appts.

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Old 06-02-2014, 04:47 PM   #9
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I agree that one must be own health advocate! After major testing and so many doctors (who don't know) I've developed a determination to research on my own until I diagnose what's going on with me. Something else that concerns me is the many flub ups I've experienced. . . decisions made by doctors, hospitals, etc. At one point I was given Prednisone and Nexium for inflammation and acid reflux (tho my records all indicate I have a very sensitive stomach and cannot tolerate most drugs). After taking a few, I became very weak with flu like symptoms. Doctors had no clue what was going on. I researched online and found that these drugs, especially Nexium can totally deplete your system of Magnesium. I purchased a Magnesium supplement and starting taking it and was soon MUCH better. On another occasion, I had muscle pain down the sides of both legs so bad I could barely walk. Again, even tho I pointed out the exactly location of pain and weakness, doctors had no clue. I mentioned this at the gym where I was working out 3 days a week. The trainer told me (immediately), "what you're describing is your ITBAND, runs down the sides of legs and is often brought on when overworked (tho not always). you have most probably got it inflamed during workout". His suggestion was to rest, stop the exercising for a couple of weeks, I did, it went away. When I told my doctor this, he looked it up on his computer as I sat there and seemed surprised at what he found. "Yep, here it is, and you probably shouldn't work out for a couple of weeks". Yes, I had to smile to myself !! My doctors are all in the same Clinic and are famous for shifting patients from one specialist to another. The information is shared in a common computer system and I honestly feel they look at it and think since I've seen practically everybody else in the Clinic (their referral), it MUST be in my head. The doctors in my town NOT connected to this Clinic are considered less reputable but I'm beginning to think I need to get away from this connection.
thx for your reply

 
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Hey.
Not sure if this has already been discussed but for the past week i have been experiencing a nagging pain under my lower left ribcage (almost like ive been kicked in the ribs).
It came up out of nowhere and is aggrevated by lifting, dragging etc and coughing to the point where it becomes extremely painful.
It is accompanied by lower back aches and not entirely comfortable...

Any ideas??
I just want to tell you my personal experience. I had it like almost every year, while weather changes. It is sharp pain, but instead of left, it is on my right side. Sometimes, the pain goes to my chest. I thought something to do with my liver, and/or bones or my heart. But every year I go on check up, liver is fine, kidney is fine. All I got is border line high cholesterol (well, runs from the family.. i guess) . Anyway, that pain goes away after weather stabilize. Not sure if it is your case. I guess I am getting old!?!

I am taking magnesium now, and let's see if it helps even more next year.

 
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Hey.
Not sure if this has already been discussed but for the past week i have been experiencing a nagging pain under my lower left ribcage (almost like ive been kicked in the ribs).
It came up out of nowhere and is aggrevated by lifting, dragging etc and coughing to the point where it becomes extremely painful.
It is accompanied by lower back aches and not entirely comfortable...

Any ideas??
I just want to tell you my personal experience. I had it like almost every year, while weather changes. It is sharp pain, but instead of left, it is on my right side. Sometimes, the pain goes to my chest. I thought something to do with my liver, and/or bones or my heart. But every year I go on check up, liver is fine, kidney is fine. All I got is border line high cholesterol (well, runs from the family.. i guess) . Anyway, that pain goes away after weather stabilize.

I am taking magnesium now, and let's see if it helps even more next year.
Maybe I need more calcium and/or magnesium. or maybe I am getting old?!

 
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:09 PM   #13
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

Could be the large bowel as it runs up by the liver and across to the left side. I thought for years my liver was destroyed but it looks like my problems are in the large bowel.

 
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:39 AM   #14
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Re: Pain under lower left ribcage

I too started having pain under my left rib cage. I assumed it was indigestion after doing a Google search. I started taking Nexium, but the symptoms were staying the same.

After continuing my search, I started getting concerned that it was a bigger problem. I found this board, and wanted to update my situation in case anyone else was still trying to figure it out for their selves.

I actually ended up in the ER, after having 2 bad days in a row. Bad pain under left rib cage, bloated, eating made it feel worse, etc. The ER did a MRI and all of my organs are fine. I then found myself getting upset because many of you had said the same thing. I set up an appointment with my Family Physician. He went over the MRI with me, everything looked great. He poked around on me at the left rib cage. He said I believe I know what it could be. (you should Google a picture of the rib cage for reference) If you're looking at a picture of the Rib cage you will see coloring around the base of the whole rib cage. This is tissue, muscle etc. that overlaps the ribs. My doctor told me he believed that I had lifted wrong or too heavy on something that would've caused inflammation. Of course it stinks because every time you breath you feel the movement, so there's really nothing much you can do, it just takes time to heal. So an over the counter anti-inflammatory and lots of heat.

I feel like he's right, but Im still in the process of healing. Just thought I'd throw this out there for someone else that's maybe dealing with this.

 
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