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Old 10-27-2010, 02:45 PM   #1
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lung pain

What type of lung disorder causes lung pain? I have pain in my upper thoracic spine going down my spine and into my sides and it hurts worse breathing in, I was told today that the pain is where my lungs are. I gave up smoking around the time this pain started in my sides but it's been in my thoracic area over a year. I was thinking it was muscular but I don't know what to think now. I have been short of breath all year.

 
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Re: lung pain

Do you cough? Does the pain seem close to your diaphram? Is it harder to exhale or inhale? Are there a wheeze or noises or rattles from the chest? I notice you gave a Gerd diagnosis on your post. Do you burp stuff up into your lungs or vomit and accidentally breathe it back in? I suppose other things could cause it though. They say pleursy, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary disease, fibrosis and cancer are painful that's why a health professional might help sort it out.

 
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Re: lung pain

No I don't cough or weeze but I am a 22 year smoker & just quit smoking a mth ago from 3 pks a day. When I am short of breath, it's like being out of breath, I don't know if it's harder to exhale or inhale really, but the pain hurts worse when I inhale. If I have indigestion & occasionally vomit, the stuff comes up in my mouth and then I swallow it, but I haven't had that problem lately. No the pain isn't close to my diaphram, it's in my ribcage in my back. The pain gets so horribly strong.

 
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Re: lung pain

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No I don't cough or weeze but I am a 22 year smoker & just quit smoking a mth ago from 3 pks a day. When I am short of breath, it's like being out of breath, I don't know if it's harder to exhale or inhale really, but the pain hurts worse when I inhale. If I have indigestion & occasionally vomit, the stuff comes up in my mouth and then I swallow it, but I haven't had that problem lately. No the pain isn't close to my diaphram, it's in my ribcage in my back. The pain gets so horribly strong.
What tests have you had done?

 
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Re: lung pain

I had a chest x-ray and abdominal x-ray, both normal. The chest xray only showed information pertaining to my heart, it did not mention anything about my lungs. The other xray said it didn't see renal calcifications. Non obstructive bowel pattern. I can't remember what else it said. I think I need a lung x-ray following a MRI of my thoracic spine. The pain isn't letting up. Still hurts to breathe in, hurts to move sometimes, it really feels like my lungs there but I just can't see it being the problem. Imagine this ... having a raw open area on your skin and somebody taking sharp long nails and scraping down that area. That plus a tight feeling in my back sides and upper left side & middle part of my abdomen, plus up in my thoracic spine. It's torchering. Tingling is usually occuring. I had surgery earlier this year and was in recovery and my oxygen kept dropping in the 80's while I was awake, it was said to be the sedation medication, hopefully that's true, cause I don't want lung disease.

 
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:05 AM   #6
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Re: lung pain

Hi there! Have the doctors checked for pulmonary hypertension connected with MCTD?

 
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Re: lung pain

If that means high blood pressure, I don't have it. My doctor thinks my breathing issues are due to the fact that I'm getting fat. I had a horrible time on thanksgiving because I would get short of breath every time I eat. I'm short of breath all the time, all I have to do is move a short distance. I've been on a diet the past few days, I went up to 180 lbs after I quit smoking twice this year.

 
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Re: lung pain

Hi there, keeping the diet for weight loss if you are overweight, in my opinion is a good idea, I would continue that. Pulmonary hypertension and regular hypertension are not the same. To test for pulmonary hypertension they do a special catheterization and thread a catheter through an a place in the groin area I believe. Perhaps this test might be difficult to start in a person who is overweight they might have to use an incision to get to it. If the chest muscles have to pull the weight of fat on the chest more it makes it all the more likely a person might have pain that way. Sometimes when muscles work harder it makes them cramp up if there is no relief.

 
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Re: lung pain

The breathing problems started right after I quit smoking, which was before I gained all that weight. I want to lose the weight anyways, and maybe I'll get lucky and it'll help. Who knows. No, I haven't been evaluated for pulmonary hypertension.

 
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Re: lung pain

I can tell you that at 180 lbs. you shouldn't be short of breath. You may be out of shape, but the weight is not the cause. I've been as high as 210 lbs. when I was on high doses of Prednisone and not short of breath. There are a lot of reasons why you could have these symptoms. Smoking, Lupus, GERD, etc. Possible causes could be interstitial lung disease, Sarcoidosis, asthma, COPD, etc.. With all your medical problems, I would think that your doctor would be ruling out these things with imaging studies such as CT scans, PET scans, gallium scans, etc. Even gallbladder disease could cause this type of pain, costochondritis; the reasons are many. With FMS, muscle injuries take a long time to recover.

I would suggest, until they find out the cause, to do everything you can to take better care of yourself. Eat healthy with small frequent meals and avoid fatty foods (to lose weight, care for your body, and to prevent GERD or gallbladder symptoms), get enough quality sleep, try to slowly increase your exercise routine, like walking (if doctor says its okay), and be sure your GERD is properly treated (taking medications, avoiding trigger foods).
Hope you are feeling better soon,

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Re: lung pain

My doctor said some of my pain sounded like Pleurisy. I guess it's nothing to worry about. I don't think he takes any of my problems seriously, truth to be told. When I was there earlier this week, I heard one patient getting a nerve conduction test (& I am having horrific nerve problems I couldn't even get medication for, as it's hard to treat without knowing the cause blahblahblah, lets wait and see a specialist that is going to take 10 years to get into and see ) and the patient in the other room was going for a lung test. All I could think is why is it their problems are being looked into, and mine never are. I've needed an MRI for over a year & half on my back I'll never get, caused pain to the point that I OD'd on stuff to get rid of, and he knew it. I had to ask for an xray but that is useless with back problems. Obviously the issue is that it's me. I'm getting mad thinking about it (forgive me here).. But my ANA tests were overlooked. Positive RNP antibodies, overlooked, both tests were high, 10 years with a diagnosis of Fibromyalgia that should have been a diagnosis of MCTD included. First Rhematologist I saw said Lupus, but that diagnosis got shoved away like it was some kind of joke by no one other than you know who, my PCP. I didn't have to lay around in bed letting fatigue and pain take 13 years of my life. But it's me, so I guess my tests have to be false positive, so they thought, he doesn't think that now, but I had to order the blood work online and prove I had this illness. I am so glad I didn't listen to his PA. He was like if you don't have a positive ESR or RF, you cannot have an autoimmune diseasse, well my ummmmp you can't. I am not detailing this one, but I could have poisoned myself in what I did to prove to myself whether I had MCTD or not, ridiculous, my doctors should have just known. But, I can finally stay out of bed and live a decently normal life now. Plaquenil is a miracle. I was so sick, I wanted to die, and now because of one medication, I am okay. It's just amazing to me. I am perfectly okay with waiting it out to see if my shortness of breath is being brought on by my weight. But not getting the nerve medication kind of made me mad, cause I needed to know if it was going to stop the pressure pain I have around my bladder, instead of surgery as an option of seeing, but oh well. Surgery 3rd time on bladder that may not work, whatever.

 
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Re: lung pain

HI there! Well If the doctor thinks it might be pleursy then in my opinion maybe a themophore heating pad might help. According to the net Plaquenil is known to cause convulsions and convulsions can be fatal.

 
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Re: lung pain

Thanks, I'll try that. I didn't know Plaquenil causes convulsions, thanks for the warning. It can also can make you go blind after 10-15 years of building up in your eyes. That's the side effect I fear the most. But a risk I'm willing to take.

 
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Re: lung pain

I feel your anger at your doctor. I recommend you find female doctors, both GP and Pulmonary. I was misdiagnosed for 5 years because the male docs wouldn't listen to me. I have a great female GP, two female pulmonologists - one at UT and one at Vanderbilt and I'm thankful every time I see them. If you're not seeing doctors at a teaching hospital, you might think about finding one at Duke or Chapel Hill.

When you’re are short of breath (SOB); try sucking on a mint, something sour or a straw. It helps you breathe through your nose and helps you catch your breath. If you have trouble getting air in, it may be obstructive, but if you find relief blowing air out through your mouth and then trying to breathe in through your nose, the problem may be restrictive. You might also make sure you don’t have a broken rib that hasn’t healed.

Good Luck!

 
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Re: lung pain

I'm not really angry. Just a little frustrated. Thanks, I'll give that a try.

 
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