Handmade fudge, oh how I love that and with nuts of any kind. Been doing the prednisone for 2days now and already feel some better. Shopping huh, how nice. I have finished all but a very few things for Christmas and will try to clean those up this week. I took a load of wrapped gifts to our sons house already since he and his wife are doing Christmas this year.
Thanks again golden for the wisdom of your years of experience. I will chat with you again on the fibro board.
hi to all .. i have been dxd with ms a few years ago and recently with fibromyalgia..
i have been reading about the aching joints you all have ..i have had these since i was a youngster mainly in the knees recently i have had the joint aches through out all of my joints ....now i'm not sure if its the ms or fibro or possibly lupus ..my son also has fibro and is now being seen by a neuro for ms .........can anybody help
Dear Mousemau, Joint pain is common in lupus but also in other diseases & conditions. In lupus, I've read, it tends to be symmetrical, meaning two-sided (e.g., both knees, both ankes, both wrists, etc.).
Have you ever seen a rheumatologist? They use standard criteria, of which you generally must have "4" of the "11" listed, at sometime in your life, to be Dx'ed with *systemic* lupus (SLE). (There are milder forms of lupus, called "subsets", in which you could have fewer than "4", though.)
You can read up a bit on these diagnostic criteria, various types of lupus, tests, etc. right from the Board here:
(1) The "sticky posts" at the beginning of the thread list
(2) The "Resources" tab above will get you into general medical sites, after which you can look for lupus; plus there's also a search box above, too
(3) Hardcovers in bookstores & libraries by several authours are particularly good. One author is Dr. Daniel Wallace, and the other is Dr. Robert Lahita.
I've also read that in early stages, mild lupus & mild MS can look enough alike to be hard to differentiate. Lupus patients who also have antiphospholipid (sticky blood) syndrome can have additional neuro problems; and people with "CNS lupus" can have very serous problems indeed.
I had neuro-like problems in the years I was seeking answers but these were mild (tingling, slight numbness, huge headaches). But I also had photosensitivity, recurrent nonscarring torso rashes, anemia, swollen joints, etc.---stuff when put together paints a picture of lupus with some systemic impact but without major organ involvement (e.g., kidneys, CNS, heart, lungs).
Hope this helps frame your thoughts a bit before you read &/or post more questions. All best wishes, Vee
VeeJ is correct as usual. Joint pains come with such a variety of ailments as to prohibit listing them all. I'm not even certain I know them all. Like Lupus, most forms of arthritis also cause symetrical pain and damage. Thyroid disfunction, be it too much or too little, can also cause joint pain as can sleep apnea. In the case of apnea it is from low SA02 levels during the night when the apnea causes you to stop breathing. Sudden weight gain or loss from illness or medication can cause joint pains also. If you has rheumatic fever as a child you can develope joint pains as an adult even if you never had them before. I'm sure by now you see what we mean by a long list of things that can cause this.
This is why we need to continue to push our physicians to narrow the field and find the exact problems instead of simply guessing or saying it age related or exercise related. I hope you feel better soon and best of luck getting to the cause of the pains.
Veej and patience50....such great info. Thanks for the reminder of the many things that can cause or contribute to joint pain. And thanks for reminding me that I need to keep pushing to find out what is causing my pains and symptoms. I will keep that on my agenda and keep pushing it closer to the top as things come to a close with my husbands illness.
I don't always take the time to post, but I always gain something from reading your posts.