Originally Posted by 6Blues
I tried Samento/Cats Claw for years - did nothing for me so I stopped.
I hope you have better luck with it!
I've been using the Nutramedix brand that Jojo mentioned and I'd say it does seem to be having a therapeutic effect. I use it in conjunction with H2O2 therapy.
For a few months I've been doing warm salt baths 1-2x weekly with 8-10oz of food grade 35% hydrogen peroxide added. That's equivalent to 12-13 cups of the over-the-counter stuff you buy at the supermarket. Since starting that regime my headaches, muscle tingling and numbness, arthritis, hand tremors, heart rate, shortness of breath all suddenly became much worse. Then after several days of detox baths (salt and ginger only) I'll have a day or two of feeling really good with almost zero symptoms. Once I had to go off the Samento and H2O2 for a week due to severe sxs. From what I've read tetracyclic oxindole alkaloids (TOA's) are present in most preparations of Samento/Cat's Claw and supposedly greatly reduce it's efficacy. If you do try this preparation use either the pills or 20 or more drops of the liquid. The tiny doses of the liquid did nothing for me.
Only side effect I noticed was a few episodes of a really spacey feeling of depersonalization. Lasted only a minute or two each time, but only while taking the Samento.
Just my guess but I'd caution anyone who is thinking about combining the Cumanda and Samento to perhaps try just one for a few months and see how well that is tolerated.