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Old 08-20-2006, 04:57 AM   #1
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confused about symptons

hello --I'm 50 years young but feeling older every day and I hate it!! I'm suffering from hot flashes, fatigue mood swings, inabiliaty to lose weight. My gyno just put me on an estrogren patch which I won't notice any changes for 3-4 weeks. I;ve been reading the message boards and alot of woman are on AD and I was wondering is that something I should ask for and that will make me feel better? Also alot of these symptons are very similiar to hypothyroidism. I was wondering if anyone has had their levels checked during this awful menopause phase and if their doctors put them on meds for that. My levels were checked and came back in normal range but what I've read that doesn't seem to mean anything. I"M SO CONFUSED!! I'm not one to run to the doctor for every ache and pain so I'm very hesitate to be on an estrogren patch,plus AD,plus hypth meds...all at once scares me. But I 'm so tired of being tired all the time and just feeling iky...and I"m to young to feel so old...please someone steer me in the right direction..

 
Old 08-20-2006, 09:02 AM   #2
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Re: confused about symptons

Well I am almost 44 and when peri symptoms hit around 42ish, I started to feel ancient. It's really depressing. I would look in the mirror and feel like I was aging over night. My motivation dropped to an all time low, and my moods were off the charts. By the way, my thyroid tests showed normal, but FSH showed peri. Hormones didn't really help me-- but the AD did. That's the only med I am on right now.
Good luck finding what works for you. I know it is so confusing-- because different things work for different people. We have to be our own human guinea pig-- nice huh? Eventually you will find what works for you though. Keep us posted.

 
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:59 AM   #3
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Re: confused about symptons

Hi there
some months ago I emailed a naturopath asking his help for my problem with kidney stones. In his reply he asked me how old I was and when he knew I was fifty, he wrote to me "Oh, you're still so young, we have to solve your problem in order to prevent you from living the other half of your life in pain"
That made me feel soooo much better!
We are young adults, darling. Feeling decrepit because in this phase our bodies rebel against us making us feel tired, ill, neurotic, worn out. But, when all this will be gone - AND IT WILL - we will be "on the other side", painfree, fatigue-free, period-free and with the rest of our life ahead.
As far as weight and tyroid is concerned, here's my experience. Five years ago I started to put on weight. For me it was unconceivable because I've always been very thin and with the opposite problem. The tests revealed I was slightly hypo and with thyroiditis. This means normal levels in my ft3, ft4 and tsh but an abnormal number of anti-bodies. I was put on Synthiroid and all hell broke lose. All my perimeno symtoms that were starting to appear and my hypo symptoms got worse. In time - and after having done a neverending pilgrimage to every specialist in town - I realized that I was being treated for the wrong reasons. I had mainly perimenopausal syntoms (weight gain included) and the thyroid med was only making things worse. So, before being treated for hypo, talk at length with your doctor. Eat healthy food, drink and exercise a lot and you'll see that soon this ugly phase will be over and your weight and sanity of mind will go back to normal.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:24 AM   #4
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Carla, thanks so much for that!!! You have put my mind to rest I've always believe that it was just my perimenopause but someone close to me is "convinced" that I suffer from thyroid disorder. So, of course, they had me thinking.....This person herself went on those meds and suffered from other symptons that were not pleasant. I always said it was the thyroid meds.
I'm going to continue with eating well, exercise and seeing my menopause specialist and I will get thru this
Funny I grew up with a "skinny" Carla...in Monmouth County NJ any chance.....

 
Old 08-21-2006, 09:46 AM   #5
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This can be so confusing especially when you have symptoms of menopause and thyroid disease. If you have had blood studies performed in the past, ask you Dr. for your previous TSH levels and see is there is an upward trend. TSH levels are NOT the best ones for determining whether you are hypo or not. You need to have a total Thyroid panal done which will include T3,T4 Free T3 and Free T4 levels as well. Also ask for an antibiodies test to test for an autoimmune disorder. If your insurance allows, go to an Endocrinologist who specializes in endocrine disorders. You need to explore all options. Does anyone in your family have a thyroid disorder? If your mom or a sibling has this you stand a greater chance of it. Don't be afraid to try a trial of Synthroid. There are absolutely no side effects. It will take 4-6 weeks to see if you feel better. Some Dr. will start you off on a very low dose for a few weeks and gradually increase it. Others will start with a higher dose, recheck you in 2 months and then adjust as necessary. You can also take synthetic thyroid hormone with HRT. One thing you might consider is making sure the Dr. you visit is YOUNG and up on newer studies......the new thyroid guidlines suggest your levels should be below 2 and most hypo people feel best at levels around 1 or below.

I found, from personal experience, most male Dr's are very quick to offer you antidepressants for this period in our lives. These are temporary "fixes" that mess with your brain chemistry. Unless you are proven to have a chemical imbalance you are asking for more troubles. They CAUSE weight gain and you can experience a lot of symptoms when you try to get off of them. If you decide to use HRT, you will have to discontinue them at some point, especially if there is any cancer in your family. You will experience all the memopausal symptoms when you do discontinue them and they could be much worse since your natural estrogen will be lower at that time as well.

You are on the right track by investigating your options but I think you really need to get some more intensive blood work done. Don't give up.....
Keep in touch.

 
Old 08-21-2006, 04:12 PM   #6
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GolfSixteen: hmm..not really many chances. I live in Italy and was born in Rome, lol. But it's nice to know you had a "skinny" Carla in your past

Featherweight: I'm sorry but I do not agree with you. I did have lots of side effects with syntiroid and many of my friends had. It seems that all this increased problems with thyroid in us women have been caused by the accident in Chernobyl. At least most endocrinologist think so. I also don't share your trust in endocrinologist. In fact now is my gyno who takes care of my thyroid. They tend to treat you - just as you said - as soon as your levels are above 1 or two. Where the range in the blood test panel is from 1 to 5. My levels are slightly above 2 and I live perfectly well without medication. I also have a huge number of antibodies but, as all the specialists will tell you, Syntiroid or any equivalent DO NOT lower down the antibodies. You just have to live with them, it doesn't affect at all your well-being. It took me over one year, several doctors, and several nights spent on the forums here on the net, to realize that I would have been better off without Synthiroid. Of course I didn't do anything without checking things first with my doctor.
I wouldn't be so strict about antidepressants either. I'm not taking them because I have a personal adversion against all medicines (whenever I can I use only natural or omeopathic remedies) but a lot of people around me had advantages using them, with little side effects and no weight gain. As always, it all changes from one person to the other.
GolfSixteen: I have been through a lot confusing symptoms between thyroid and peri. Whenever you feel like venting, you'll find me here.
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:30 PM   #7
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heitara - I am sorry you experienced difficulties with Snythroid. I, on the other hand, started feeling better within 2 weeks of starting on it and have never looked back. My original TSH was only considered "high" normal but my Dr. recommended I try it. My weight gain, depression, hot flashes, libido, dry skin, etc., all improved tremendously! I know of many gals on it with absolutley no issues. Like you say, we are all different and our bodies all react differently.

Basically we have to find our own level of comfort within the medical community whether it be traditional medicine, homeopathic or voodoo. Sometimes we just need to "try" different modalities to see what works. So many symptoms overlap. I will also say that my Gyno isn't going to treat my thyroid disorder and I don't expect my Endocrinologist to deliver my baby or decide what's best for my vagina.

We all bring our own experiences and/or opinions to these boards with the hope that we can help one another make educated decisions and to share like experiences.

Have a great day everyone,


 
Old 08-22-2006, 01:14 AM   #8
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Hello Featherweight, I totally agree with you.
We are all different and with different reactions to everything in life, and I guess this is our richness...

I never meant to say Synthiroid is "bad" for everybody. I was replying to that part of your post where you stated in a very determined way "Don't be afraid to try a trial of Synthyroid. There are absolutely no side effects" I've experienced lots of awful side effects, along with many people I met and along with a huge number of women I got in touch with on the Net. [DELETED] I'm happy you found the right medicine for you. But I don't agree with you when you say that medicine can be right for everybody.

Again, I probably didn't make myself clear regarding endocrinologists. That's to whom I went first of all. My experience wasn't happy with them so I turned to my gynecologist. Menopause, hormonal unbalances etc can mess up with your thyroid, therefore I trust gynecologists in having a deep knowledge of it ( I'm talking about serious doctors, of course). It's something they have to be very familiar with and to me it makes sense to rely on your gyno when comes to thyroid and the production of its hormones.
On the other hand, a malfunctioning thyroid will never give you discharges or
problems with delivering a baby so, again, I agree with you. Endos are not supposed to know a lot about it.
Although I keep putting my trust in doctors who see and treat your body as a whole....

Have a good day Featherweight. And everybody
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