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Old 08-14-2005, 12:13 AM   #1
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Unhappy Recovering from ankle surgery

If you want to skip my rather lengthy story and go straight to my questions then don’t read the long paragraph.

Hi, I'm an unfortunate 18 year-old who abruptly ended the best summer of his life . On Tuesday (Aug. 9) I fell while skateboarding back to my house. I landed very awkwardly on my left foot which made it twist and produced a loud popping/cracking noise. The specific series of events that follow are unclear but I remember both quickly popping my foot back into place, since it was way to the left (rotated about 90 degrees). Then I remember either trying to walk or standing, or something; something that showed my that my foot was all floppy and I had no control over it. I knew I was injured badly and luckily was neither far from my house, nor far where I was skating from, our neighborhood cabana club. I yelled for John or Cory, the lifeguards at work at the time but they didn't hear me. Fortunately a neighbor was out. I yelled for him to tell my mom that I broke my ankle and we need to go to the hospital. Like any concerned mother, she came running down the street to see me, I calmly told her to get the car, because we need to go to the hospital. She did just that, and as her and my neighbor were trying to load me into the car (a large SUV ) I was about to faint. And actually, I even said to my mom, "I'm about to faint, and I hope I do." I was in the worst pain of my life, and I've suffered many other injuries in my life. She decided it would probably be easier to call for an ambulance. Luckily a fire station is located one block from my house so the firemen were there in about one minute. They proceeded to make me a little brace for my ankle while I waited for the ambulance. The ambulance arrived not much later and off I went to the hospital, my mom trailing closely behind in her car. In the ambulance I received 4 mg of morphine, although reluctantly (the EMTs highly advised me to take it). Actually the EMTs were a joy to talk to. They seemed to know exactly what I was going through and were very good in cheering me up. While unloading me from the ambulance one of the EMTs said he usually just sticks to Tony Hawk on the ***********, and the other replied by saying he should be careful not to get Nintendinitis. I laughed and said that’s all I wish I had. I got wheeled into the ER and was put in room eight. I waited there for about five minutes until a doctor talked to me and sent me to get X-Rays. Waiting for X-Rays, I spoke to a family whose son was also waiting for X-Rays because of a broken arm due to skateboarding. When I first asked what was wrong, however, the dad said “Gun shot,” though he was only joking, I fell for it. I took three painful X-Rays, then returned to my room in the ER. Moments later the doctor returned with my X-Rays and they certainly confirmed what I had felt. A lengthy spiral fracture up my fibula, but more importantly than that, I had separated the tibia and ankle join region. I’m not completely clear on how to explain what the injury was, but actually, I did the exact same thing Terrell Owens did to his ankle during last season’s NFL game. The doctor said I’d be needing surgery, involving specifics which she was unclear on. I went home from the ER with an appointment the next morning and orders not to eat or drink after midnight, since I may be having surgery in the morning. I returned to the doctor’s in the morning with news that they could not schedule me in for today (Aug. 10), but it didn’t matter since the leg was too swollen to be operated on anyway. The next day I returned with an empty stomach, met for the first time with the doctor who would be doing the surgery and with hardly even a glance at my foot said surgery will be today (Aug. 11). I took a deep breath and said, “OK, let’s do it.” He told me what he’d be doing. First a plate with screws would be attached to my fibula, probably remaining attached for the rest of my life unless they start to bother me. Then for the ankle which more importantly needed to be fixed I am still unclear what was done, but it was the less drastic of the two methods he said he would need to do. He did not have to put a long screw through two bones, a screw that does need to be removed after the ankle is healed. I returned back to the hospital at 11:30 that morning and eventually waited until about 3:00 until surgery. To be honest I wasn’t too worried about the surgery, but the only thing I was really nervous about was the anesthesia. I have never had a surgery or been put to sleep before and was worried about having a reaction to these drugs and, well, not waking up. Before the surgery I was asked an unexpected question by the two anesthesiologists: Which type of anesthesia do I want, regional, or general. After a nearly half-hour discussion and decision I nervously picked regional (the one the anesthesiologist said that, “If it was my brother I’d give him regional.” The thing that seemed so strange about regional anesthesia was that you are conscious, to a degree, the whole time. In retrospect I’m very glad I chose regional anesthesia because I actually enjoyed surgery. It was fun. I was in the OR they gave me some calming drugs through the IV and then a couple needles in the back, not so fun, then a mask with some heavier drugs. While fully conscious in the OR with the mask I was laughing and really enjoying myself. Next thing I know, I’m awake and talking to the nurse in the recovery room. The next 30 minutes were euphoric. However, since those 30 minutes the last 54 hours (Aug. 11 4:00 to now is 54 hours) have not been so great. Yesterday was really painful, and today, while better, has not been enjoyable.

Sorry for the long story. I will now get to the questions. To summarize: I broke my ankle skateboarding, and needed surgery. Surgery involved putting a plate on my broken fibula and repairing tendons or ligaments (to be honest I’m not entirely sure how my ankle was fixed) because my ankle and tibia were too far separated. Surgery ended at 16:00 Aug. 11.
Questions: It’s been over two days now and my foot is still really swollen. While I expect this is normal, I just want to confirm that it is and also would like to know how long I could expect it to be swollen. However, I am more concerned about how my foot it numb. The blood flow to my toes is fine and my toes themselves aren’t numb, but further up onto my foot is really numb. I want to know if this is normal and how long my foot will be numb for. The pain and swolleness I can deal with. But the numbness concerns me.

An off-topic question but directly related from the surgery has to do with urination. Something that I was unaware of with the regional anesthesia was that EVERYTHING would be numb from my waist down. This included my penis. One of the qualifications to leave the OR and go home was that I needed to pee. They gave me until almost 11:00 PM, nearly seven hours after my surgery, to pee, but I couldn’t. So, I needed to have a catheter. I told the nurse that I wouldn’t need much more time to pee, but she said that this was easy and I’d get to leave now. Well, breaking my leg hurt a great deal, but this.... this was a new type of pain. Simply put, it hurt so bad. Anyway, my question involving this is that it still hurts a little bit when I start to pee. I have to let it trickle out, then start fully peeing. Once I’m peeing, it’s 99% fine, but starting still hurts. Is this normal, and how long can I expect this to last?

Thank you for your help.

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Old 08-14-2005, 06:53 AM   #2
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Re: Ankle surgery, need answers.

Wow, quite the story,glad everything went well for you.I did not realize that they now actually gave you the option with having a regional block vs knocking you out to next week,with that type of surgery.I am sure it really was an interesting experience.The thing with any nerve blocks is as you have found out,since they block you from the spinal cord level and down yes, everything gets numb.This is why they work so well for use in pain control for us chronic pain patients.i would think that what you are experiencing would be considered normal for the first few times post op urinating.But this really should not be continuing for more than a day or two.I am pretty sure the reason you are feeling that burn is from being cathed.i experienced this after all my surgeries as i was cathed every time,and the last one for over four days because i had to lie flat for those four days after a surgery done into my spinal cord.sometimes you can get a bladder infection from being cathed but that would not show itself for about a week or two,most likely.If that burning gets worse or you start getting a fever and feeling more crappy than usual(for YOUR particular situation)then call your surgeon.you may need anti Bs to clear it.But keep drinking alot of fluids to keep your kidneys and bladder well flushed.I know it probably hurts like he** to get up to go to the bathroom but if that is a big problem,you can always get a urinal,the kind i am sure you had in the hosp post op?but you DO need to get up every once in a while and move around, just to stretch and excercise all your muscles.

Now, the swelling.i would say that considering the overall amount of trauma that your ankle has experienced(the initial accident combined with the surgery)this would probably be considered par for the course.The bones and tissues have been rather battered since the day of the accident and thru your sugery.If you can see the swelling,I am assuming that there is no actual cast on you at this time?As long as the ankle stays a normal color(nothing turning purple,blue or very red and nasty looking?)The swelling will eventually go down,although in your case it may just take a while.i would try and keep the ankle well elevated.this means to maintain a constant(when possible)elevation ABOVE the heart.this will minimize the blood flow a little and also keep gravity from letting too much fluid build up in the wounded area.I certainly hope that your surgeon supplied you well with some strong painkillers for when the pain gets real bad.Espescially upon movement.something with oxycodone in it would probably be your best bet for this type of pain or you may respond well with something like Vicodin,despite the fact that it is just slightly weaker than oxy.Everyone is different in how they respond to painkillers.as long as it is working,thats the key.Did your surgeon say anything about starting pt at some point?This would most likely eventually follow a surgery such as yours to help teach you how to walk with your new hardware.You will walk a differently,at least for a while til you adapt to it.If you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask.There are some very knowledgable people here who can help alot.i hope everything heals soon for you.FB
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Old 08-14-2005, 09:51 AM   #3
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Re: Ankle surgery, need answers.

I had ankle surgery to repair ligaments damaged in a bad sprain. I was really swollen for quite a while. Even 5-6 weeks after surgery, my toes would swell when I let my foot hang down. To help the swelling, you need to keep the ankle elevated. Not just on a footstool, but way up in the air, higher than your heart. So you should be laying flat on your back with your foot up on several pillows. Also, you can ice it, although if you have huge bandages on, it may not make much of a difference.

The numbness is normal. The nerves that supply sensation from your foot can be damaged in two main ways, either being cut or being squeezed. The squeezing happens from swelling, which compresses the nerves, and then they take a long time to come back even after the swelling goes down. After my surgery, some of my toes were numb from this. It took a few months to come back, but it will come back. And, of course, the surgeon cut some of the very small nerves when he cut through the skin. But that should only affect the skin right around the incision. The area about 1 inch around my incision was numb, but most of that has come back except for the incision itself.

You're definitely going to want physical therapy. They will help you with your range of motion, strength, and residual swelling. They will get you back on your feet much faster. It may be a while before you can start (I started in May), but once you get to the point where you can do it, you should be going 2-4 times per week for at least 2-3 weeks.

So, bottom line, you really messed up your foot, and it's going to take you several months to recover. I had my surgery in March, got off crutches in May, and was back to a tennis shoe and normal activities in July. Just be patient for now, take it easy, and take advantage of the opportunity to let other wait on you hand and foot.

 
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Re: Ankle surgery, need answers.

Thanks for the replies. To respond to feelbad I'm on Vicadin and Ibueprophen.

As for physical therapy, I'm sure I will start eventually. I haven't talked to be surgeon since the surgery, but am scheduled for an appointment at the end of the week to talk to him.

About being able to see my toes, that's pretty much all I can see. I am in a hard, but removable splint/cast.

Also, another sidenote. My urination is almost completely back to normal. I'm just a litte scared to let it go 100% from the start. I've been kind of letting it trickle out, then I fully go, but I don't think that's nesescary anymore.

Thanks for you help.

 
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Re: Ankle surgery, need answers.

Just an update.

I'm doing better, but the ankle still hurts quite a bit sometimes. After waking up from sleep or a nap it feels fine, that is until I stand up. Once I stand up for a minute, say to go to the bathroom (by the way, the urination is 100% okay now), it hurts like crazy for 15-30 minutes. In general the pain is still pretty constant and not so subtle. I go back to the doctor on Friday to check everything.

I guess I'm just wondering is all this pain normal? I'm sure it is, but I'm the type of person who constantly needs reassurance.

Thank you.

 
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