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Old 03-31-2007, 06:50 AM   #1
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Effects of short and long term testosterone replacement?

I've read many topics here on Low T and treatments therefor, but havn't seen as much on how men feel and respond after receiving treatments for awhile.

More specifically, what changes, good and bad, has replacement T brought both mentally and physically? How hard has it been to keep your T levels constant? What do you like and what could you do without?

Since I may be unable to avoid this, I figure I'd better look into it. Can't stand the whole thing. Although I intellectually realize that it's a failure of one of many body processes, my male ego labels me weak and worse for suffering from it. I keep asking myself why couldn't I develop a "normal" and less emasculating affliction if I had to get something. So much for a healthy diet and exercise.... I don't like feeling the shame and embarassment of this and have shared it with nobody but my wife, and even then reluctantly, and here due to the anonymity. Thanks to all for their help and input.

 
Old 03-31-2007, 05:45 PM   #2
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Re: Effects of short and long term testosterone replacement?

Anyman,
I know exactly how you feel. It is emasculating or at least makes you feel that way. Remember though for most of us it is our brain, not our testicles that is broken. Another reason I like taking HCG....at least my testicles remain firm and are working and you might even be potent (I mean sperm count good) on HCG.

I do have some trouble keeping my T levels right. This is a life long thing to have to deal with. It is a pain in the ***. But what is the alternative?

I feel much better on my current treatment and although not like I was in my 20's and 30's I am at least able to have good libido about 1/2 of the time or more and only rare ED problems. I never have had the fatigue a lot of men get.

Also, I think if you get good treatment from a good doctor there can even be an advantage here. Those without this disease will see their T level's fade with age and their estradiol go up. Along with that will come low libido, ED, and BPH and/or prostate cancer. Those of use under this treatment keeping estradiol down and T up will probably not have any of that as we age into our 60's and older. So look at the bright side.

I have told no one but my wife either. My parents know I have a pituitary disorder and have to take injections but don't know the details of it. There is really no need to tell anyone else. It does not effect them anyway.

 
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Old 03-31-2007, 08:30 PM   #3
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Re: Effects of short and long term testosterone replacement?

Thanks, Hayfarmer. I must say, I've learned infinitely more here on this board than from my own doctors. Doesn't say much for the medical establishment, does it? I am still scheduled to see the supposed "specialist" in 3 1/2 weeks. I look forward to it and hope something positive will develop.

 
Old 04-08-2007, 05:59 PM   #4
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I've read many topics here on Low T and treatments therefor, but havn't seen as much on how men feel and respond after receiving treatments for awhile.

More specifically, what changes, good and bad, has replacement T brought both mentally and physically? How hard has it been to keep your T levels constant? What do you like and what could you do without?

Since I may be unable to avoid this, I figure I'd better look into it. Can't stand the whole thing. Although I intellectually realize that it's a failure of one of many body processes, my male ego labels me weak and worse for suffering from it. I keep asking myself why couldn't I develop a "normal" and less emasculating affliction if I had to get something. So much for a healthy diet and exercise.... I don't like feeling the shame and embarassment of this and have shared it with nobody but my wife, and even then reluctantly, and here due to the anonymity. Thanks to all for their help and input.
Good - Energy, get up and get things done is improved 10000x. Anxiety? Whats that? Sex drive? Daily is enough now. ;-) Before, I was annoyed to be bothered with sex every couple of months. Mood? Great... Before? I was a guy with PMS.

Bad - Atrophy of the testicles. Its a sad fact of HRT. I've seen a lot of posts about HCG and Clomid. Before you go that way ask the Doctor thats prescribing it for you "Is this really safe?" Frankly I've spoken to 4 doctors and 3 outright said this was not to be used for anything longer then say 6 months. They said that it could "fry" part of my brain. The last one suggested it instead of Androgel. When I said "Doc, my MD warned me that it might fry my brain" he said "Oh, well yes, its not been studied for long term use. She is probably right."

And NO I'm not a doctor so take what I say with a huge grain of salt.

Speaking just as a patient. I feel 1000x better on Androgel then without it. If it made my testicles explode into flame I would still prefer being on it then off. As to male ego issues about this? Humm... Well I guess I felt that way when I filled the Viagra prescription the first few times. Then I thought "Screw this" I'm still a guy. If I need a drug to help "get it up" its not because I've suddenly lost my manhood and enjoy gay porn now. Or whatever. ;-) Hell I'm thinking of getting a shirt that says "Viva Viagra!" Or maybe "Powered by Androgel!"

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Old 04-09-2007, 08:16 AM   #5
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Re: Effects of short and long term testosterone replacement?

I hope I can get to where your at James. I still get anxiety attacks eveynow then, sex drive is all over the place, I want it, I don't want it ect. Energy and drive is also up and down. I felt great when I first started Testim, but then my testies quit producing so I dropped again. I do not know if Anrogel is better then Testim or not. I also found my Proclatin is almost out of range on the high end. I do not go back to endo for another 4 weeks. I really believe that if I can get my Testosterone up to the mid 700's and my prolactin down then I will feel much better.

 
Old 04-09-2007, 03:48 PM   #6
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Wow-- Thanks, James for the very illuminating post (m)

Really appreciate your taking the time to post so detailed a synopsis. I am holding off on doing anything till I meet with a Dr who is supposed to be an "expert" at a major teaching hospital. Dealing with the constant sense of aggravation and wanting to strangle everyone is, well, irritating. I don't want to start anything until I learn about ALL the options, including HGC and clomid. I don;t want to start down a road with no way to go back until I have all the realistic options in front of me.

My biggest fear is dependency, as such is something I have always feared and loathed. I even worry about what would happen in the event of a natural or other disaster and supplies were in short supply? Yeah- I've got that "prepare for every disaster" mentality and hate perceiving myself as unable to fend for myself w/o artificial means. Intellectually, I know that there is no real difference between being dependent on TRT and, say, heart medication. Emotionally, however, I can't help but think differently.

Androgel did nothing for me. I have the chance to participate in an every 10 week injection trial which has supposedly done wonders for European men. I'm done the prequalifying tests and am holding off till my appt w/ the specialist in 2 weeks.

Again, thanks for your post. Gave me a laugh--and some hope. Look forward to hearing back.

 
Old 04-10-2007, 07:54 AM   #7
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Re: Wow-- Thanks, James for the very illuminating post (m)

You can be dependent no sex, foggy thinking, weak, depression, bone loss, prostate problems or on "T" & "HCG" injections. Your choice. I went with the injections.

 
Old 04-10-2007, 09:40 AM   #8
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Re: Effects of short and long term testosterone replacement?

I understand that. I didn't want to have to be dependant either but here I am. Its not like you have a big choice here. Also, if for some reason you could not longer get your T medicine you are not going to die. Your quality of life will go down and over a long time it may cause other health problems but it's not like you're going to die right away, like you might on some other medications poeple need.

 
Old 04-10-2007, 05:18 PM   #9
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Wish I could say I disagree with what you all are saying--but I cannot (m)

I am pretty much resigned to the fact that I will likely have to do something. I'm just waiting till I find a Doctor able and willing to preserve what natural function I have, be it with HCG or something else. In 2 weeks I see the supposed "specialist", so I'm on hold till then.

As always, thanks to all for their time and input. Never wanted to be in this club, but I've run into a good bunch of guys here.

 
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