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Old 05-24-2007, 08:45 AM   #1
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arimidex side effects

Has anyone had any of the side effects associated with Arimidex? My doctor wants to put me on Chrysin instead of Arimidex due to side effects. Any one had benefits from using the Chrysin as an aromatase inhibitor?

 
Old 05-24-2007, 08:48 AM   #2
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Re: arimidex side effects

That is interesting... I have seen many post stating the Chrysin is not really effective... DIM is usually the herbal aramotase inhibitor that everyone recomends.... If you do a web search I am sure you can find a list of side effects for arimidex...

 
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:25 PM   #3
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I agree with Jinxy. The first try is usually 120 mg of DIM complex and 30-50 mg of zinc per day. I suggest DIM by Pure Encapsulations or Phytopharmica. I have never heard of Chrysin but I have heard of some bad side effect from arrimidex. Try the DIM / zinc first or do a search on Chrysin and see if anyone has had success. Hey, your doc must be worth something if he is concerned about AI's. Most doctors have no clue estradiol is bad for a man if too high. Maybe the Chrysin will work?

 
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This doc I am seeing is a God send. I have been to several internal medicine MD's and he is the only one that knows his stuff. The only Chrysin he said he would recommend was Super Mira Forte by Life Extension. I've put in a order today and eager to get it. I have been on the weekly injections now for 4 weeks and feel alot better, but still am having some of the fatigue and brain fog associated with adrenal fatigue. Will keep you posted guys.

 
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Let me know if the Chrysin works for your estradiol too. That would be very useful to know.

 
Old 05-25-2007, 06:18 AM   #6
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Re: arimidex side effects

I have been using 1/2 Arimidex tablet 3 time a week for almost a year. It lowerer my estrogen levels from the 80s to labout 10.

My testosterone went up. I had to cut back on my T injection amounts.

My T:E2 ratio now stays above 30:1. I think the ratio is important to watch. It seems that if the estrogen is a little high & the testosterone is a little high & the ratio stays above 30:1 everything is OK.

The T:E2 ratio shouild be from 30:1 to 50:1 for best results.

Mine was 2:1 when I first started HRT & I felt dead in all areas. I have lost 40 pounds when the E2 started dropping & I feel much better.

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Super Mira Forte by Life Extension!!! I did a websearch for this and it has Chrysin and Zinc and Maca and a few other herbs.... Very expensive...like $70 for a 30 day supply.... I did a search for Arimidex side effects and as far as my untrained eye could tell all listed seemed to be releated to women who would have low E...I think that any drug taken for a long time is a bad thing... Many heavy supplement users swear by the cycle, in which you take a supplement or drug for say 6 weeks and then are off for say 2 weeks... Not a bad Idea I believe.....

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I think it was about a month to lower it. I took 2 DIM & 1/2 Arimidex 3 times a week. The day of my "T" injections.

You do not want the E2 to be below 10 as that can cause problems.

 
Old 10-18-2007, 01:16 PM   #9
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I think it was about a month to lower it. I took 2 DIM & 1/2 Arimidex 3 times a week. The day of my "T" injections.

You do not want the E2 to be below 10 as that can cause problems.
Hey JinL,

I'm late finding this thread but I'm quite glad I did. I'm very curious to know more about your response to Arimidex. My situation is as follows:

About 5 years ago I fell very ill. Took me 5 years of hell to figure out my hormones were messed up. Last January I had saliva labs done showing shot adrenals (flatlined), and a very sluggish thyroid with a screaming TSH. Since going on HC and Thyroid for these, I feel much better... but still only about 50%. I thought it may be a pituitary issue but my thinking now is that it may all be caused by significant estrogen dominance:


January saliva readings:

E2 (Estradiol) - 5 - Ref. Male (20-49 yrs): 1-3 pg/ml
P1 (Progesterone) - 27 - Ref: Male (adult): 5-95 pg/ml
TTF (Free Testosterone) - 22 - Ref. Male (20-30 yrs): 60-110pg/ml

... keep in mind it is saliva but blood tests have confirmed the same findings. I have a high total T, but very low bioavailable and free T. Add to that high E2 and SHBG and I think I may have found out what's going on... the estrogen is totally slowing my system.

I'm only 26 and weigh 180 pounds. I look slim but it's all fat... no muscle... no sex drive... it's horrible. I had a run in with drugs, poor lifestyle, and then came out of it... but I think my T/E ratio got all messed up.

So I have Arimidex on the way. I have done the Indoplex w/ DIM and it worked for a brief stint. I was getting erections and felt slightly better. But then it was gone... I was doing a lot of it too. Combined with zinc even. Even came off of it for weeks to see if I had driven E too low - clearly that was not the case however.

I am so tired all of the time, I don't get good sleeps, no sex drive, my testicles are rather small. Lots of body fat despite a small frame (strange really). Overall I feel very sluggish... stressed too.

I'm wondering what you noticed - in detail if you can, from taking Arimidex? And based off what I mentioned above, does it sound like I would see a good benefit from taking it?

I know the temper in going overboard. Currently though, with the DIM I am not even close to getting anywhere with my E problem (I feel). It's funny, but I was going to use a very similar strategy to you - taking DIM with the Arimidex. (ie. DIM metabolizes the E making way for T, and the Arimidex will ensure the new T stays T).

What sort of benefits (mind & body) did you see Jin? I'm super curious in anticipation. I think I've stumbled upon what could make me feel a lot better - and could improve my other hormones, namingly cortisol and thyroid.

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Old 10-18-2007, 01:39 PM   #10
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Hey JinL,

I'm late finding this thread but I'm quite glad I did. I'm very curious to know more about your response to Arimidex. My situation is as follows:

About 5 years ago I fell very ill. Took me 5 years of hell to figure out my hormones were messed up. Last January I had saliva labs done showing shot adrenals (flatlined), and a very sluggish thyroid with a screaming TSH. Since going on HC and Thyroid for these, I feel much better... but still only about 50%. I thought it may be a pituitary issue but my thinking now is that it may all be caused by significant estrogen dominance:


January saliva readings:

E2 (Estradiol) - 5 - Ref. Male (20-49 yrs): 1-3 pg/ml
P1 (Progesterone) - 27 - Ref: Male (adult): 5-95 pg/ml
TTF (Free Testosterone) - 22 - Ref. Male (20-30 yrs): 60-110pg/ml

... keep in mind it is saliva but blood tests have confirmed the same findings. I have a high total T, but very low bioavailable and free T. Add to that high E2 and SHBG and I think I may have found out what's going on... the estrogen is totally slowing my system.

I'm only 26 and weigh 180 pounds. I look slim but it's all fat... no muscle... no sex drive... it's horrible. I had a run in with drugs, poor lifestyle, and then came out of it... but I think my T/E ratio got all messed up.

So I have Arimidex on the way. I have done the Indoplex w/ DIM and it worked for a brief stint. I was getting erections and felt slightly better. But then it was gone... I was doing a lot of it too. Combined with zinc even. Even came off of it for weeks to see if I had driven E too low - clearly that was not the case however.

I am so tired all of the time, I don't get good sleeps, no sex drive, my testicles are rather small. Lots of body fat despite a small frame (strange really). Overall I feel very sluggish... stressed too.

I'm wondering what you noticed - in detail if you can, from taking Arimidex? And based off what I mentioned above, does it sound like I would see a good benefit from taking it?

I know the temper in going overboard. Currently though, with the DIM I am not even close to getting anywhere with my E problem (I feel). It's funny, but I was going to use a very similar strategy to you - taking DIM with the Arimidex. (ie. DIM metabolizes the E making way for T, and the Arimidex will ensure the new T stays T).

What sort of benefits (mind & body) did you see Jin? I'm super curious in anticipation. I think I've stumbled upon what could make me feel a lot better - and could improve my other hormones, namingly cortisol and thyroid.
Jin,

These would probably help:

Total Testosterone - 26 (HI) - Range 7.3-23.5 nmol/L
Free Testosterone - 54.1 - Range 31.0-94.0 PMOL/L
Bioavailable Testosterone (1) - 4.7 - Range 3.0 - 16.0 nmol/L
Bioavailable Testosterone (2) - 7.9 - Range 3.0-16.0 nmol/L
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) - 48 - Range 13-73 nMOL/L
Estradiol 17 Beta - 113 - Range UP TO 206, Units pmol/L ** I was taking Indoplex w/ DIM when taking this test unfortunately (x2 to 3 daily)

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Old 10-19-2007, 06:01 AM   #11
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Re: arimidex side effects

I wish you good luck.
My problems are mainly caused by Klinefelters Mosaic syndrome, 47XXY,XY.

My hormone are confused as extra female chromosomes are in the upper body. I have to supplement the "T" & reduce the "E2".

I always had little muscle & extra body fat, & gynecomastia, but did not look fat.

 
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