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Old 09-26-2007, 04:08 AM   #1
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Frenulum Breve? Phimosis?

Hi folks,

When I pull my foreskin back in its flaccid state, it resembles photos of frenulum breve; a condition I've recently been reading up on - especially the fact that the glans (head) is pulled forward and down as the foreskin's pulled further back. I need to clarify with people more in the know about frenulum breve whether those pictures showed flaccid or erect penises (I'd estimate they were erect, but it's difficult to tell as they're close-ups). My glans thankfully remains upright when my penis is erect.

At first, I thought I might have phimosis. I told an internet friend that I either take ages to ejaculate or don't ejaculate at all whilst having sex. He said he has the same dilemma due to having phimosis and enquired as to whether I also have the condition. I hadn't heard of it, so I checked on ****pedia and other sites. It appears phimosis is where the foreskin either can't fully retract over the glans or, if it does, it causes tightness and discomfort. Thankfully, my foreskin retracts fully, but pulling it back (again, in its flaccid state) kind of resembles a photo captioned "phimotic ring" a bit halfway down the Phimosis page on ****pedia. I've always presumed this was normal for a flaccid penis with the foreskin pulled back. Is this the case?

When my penis is erect, there's a bit of a build-up of foreskin that rests up against the head. I presumed this is also normal and, again, I'd like to ask whether that's indeed the case. I have no problem slipping a condom over it.

Lastly, another thing I'd like to clarify is this - when a man pulls his foreskin right back with a flaccid penis, there's...(hmmm...how do I put this?)...A fairly pungent (not overpowering, but definitely pungent) odour emanating from it.

Appreciative of any advice

 
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:20 AM   #2
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Re: Frenulum Breve? Phimosis?

The phimotic ring, while not unusual, is not part of nature's design. It came about because of scarring from a yeast infection, or premature retraction, or something like that. Sometimes these can be stretched, sometimes not. If it can't be stretched per the instructions on the sticky at the top of this forum, you do have options. Your doctor can prescribe betamethasone cream. This is a steroid, which, when used in conjunction with stretching, can loosen a phimotic ring. You could buy a glansie, at about $90 US, and mechanically stretch the phimotic ring. Or, you could have a slight circumcision, and have it removed.
The bunching up of foreskin behind the head is typical enough. An ideal state is when the foreskin slides back on the in stroke, and forward on the out stroke during intercourse, but many mens' penises don't behave that way, and they are fine. The pulling downward of the frenulum does sound like frenulum breve.
Sometimes gentle, and I stress gentle because you don't want to tear that area, stretching can help, but it really is a toss up. Perhaps betamethasone will help, I don't really know. But, if all else fails, there is surgery, called a frenuloplasty. Basically, they cut the frenulum in a Z shape, and it heals longer. You still get to keep all of your penis.
The smell you describe is from smegma. You need to really pull the foreskin all the way back in the shower, wet your penis well, rub in every little fold and wrinkle with your thumb, and then rinse. If you follow this procedure daily or so, it will never be a problem again.

 
Old 09-27-2007, 12:49 AM   #3
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Re: Frenulum Breve? Phimosis?

Thanks for the information, Tommy. I'll most likely need some surgery sometime. I'll see my GP about it. Is frenuloplasty free in the UK?

I haven't suffered any physical trauma whilst having sex (tearing, torsion, etc), but I always use condoms so I guess they act as a barrier to that. As mentioned, I often find I can't ejaculate during sex. Would frenulum breve/the phimotic ring be a potential reason for this or is it probably unrelated?

Hmm...The steroid cream. Wouldn't that thin the skin, potentially making it more susceptible to tearing in the future?

 
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Re: Frenulum Breve? Phimosis?

It does thin the skin. The skin, in this case, is a tough ring of scar tissue.
Thinning it a bit should not make you susceptible to tearing in the future.
A glansie would avoid surgery.

 
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