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Old 11-21-2009, 03:17 AM   #1
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How long does testosterone gel take to work?

My endo has finally diagnosed me with primary hypogonadism, and pescribed "testogel", one sachet per day. Not sure if this is exactly the same as the androgel that many people on here use, but it's going to be something similar. I was wondering how long it take so to have an effect? I have been on it for two weeks, but not noticed any difference yet. The endo said it can take 3-4 months.

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Re: How long does testosterone gel take to work?

You should notice some change right away. Normally, one's levels will get pretty high at first because the T supplementation is in addition to your body's T. After a couple of weeks, one's body senses this regular supplementation and thus, cuts back on it's own. Thus, most people complain of the opposite...How they noticed something fairly quickly and then when the levels drop, they say it isn't working as well. At this pt, Docs will say to give it awhile to stabilize.

Your ENDO is right in that it takes a couple of months to fully kick in and start noticing some long term effects....Like faster metabolism, weight loss and etc. However, you should notice more energy pretty quickly as well as improved sexual function. It could be that the dose wasn't high enough. Or, you could have absorption problems. Some people don't absorb the T very well and thus, need shots. Are you applying it where you were instructed to?

Protocol is for T to be re-tested after about 30 days to make sure either one's levels aren't sky high, or way low. I'd get back in there and ask for a re-test. Also, you have to remember that all the good T Docs say that you're supposed to treat the symptoms and not the number, so even if your numbers come up....If you still feel bad or having other issues, your T isn't high enough.

BTW, what was your initial reading? Also, you must be in Europe because I don't think Testogel is sold in the US. I could be wrong.

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Old 11-22-2009, 02:08 AM   #3
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Re: How long does testosterone gel take to work?

This might be the case, because I did think I had more energy initially, but certainly not in the last couple of days. In terms of sexual function, the only thing I noticed was that I am tending to wake up more often with an erection, but cannot say this is carrying over to other contexts. Endo is not planning on seeing me again until next March.

Yes I am in Europe. I had three readings. They seem to just focus on free testosterone here, which was 7 on one reading (normal range 10-30). On the other two, I was just told it was at the lower end of the normal range. However, FSH was through roof, at around 30 when then max is supposed to be 6.

Unfortunately I have several health problems, and am on several drugs, which complicate matters. I am tapering off prednisolone, which I have been on for over a year, and each time I reduce the dose I seem to experience extreme fatigue. I sweat profusely pretty well all the time, which if anything seems slightly worse over the last couple of weeks.

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Re: How long does testosterone gel take to work?

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This might be the case, because I did think I had more energy initially, but certainly not in the last couple of days. In terms of sexual function, the only thing I noticed was that I am tending to wake up more often with an erection, but cannot say this is carrying over to other contexts. Endo is not planning on seeing me again until next March.
Early AM erections are the best sign that your T levels are working. Conversely, the absence of such is a big warning sign. It could be that your levels aren't high enough, or that you have some form of ED. You mentioned that you are on several other medications. They are probably the culprit in all of this....Not just in your low T, but also your ED. I know many people who fall into this group. I'd recommend getting some Cialis or Viagra....They both work great and just keep it to yourself.

Cialis works in as little as 30 minutes and last 36 hours, thus, it's very accommodating to a relationship. Just pop it slightly before you think something may happen and then you're good to go for a while. Because Cialis helps oxygenate your blood, many report that they often feel much better after taking it. I mention this because taking the pill offers other benefits as well. And, if relations didn't occur for some reason, all is not lost.


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Yes I am in Europe. I had three readings. They seem to just focus on free testosterone here, which was 7 on one reading (normal range 10-30). On the other two, I was just told it was at the lower end of the normal range. However, FSH was through roof, at around 30 when then max is supposed to be 6.
Yes, there is a debate in the HRT world on which number is better, Total T or Free T. Regardless, both are strongly correlated. When your total T is low, then you can only have so much free T. You mentioned your readings....Are they vs. all men or men your age? Big difference.


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Unfortunately I have several health problems, and am on several drugs, which complicate matters. I am tapering off prednisolone, which I have been on for over a year, and each time I reduce the dose I seem to experience extreme fatigue. I sweat profusely pretty well all the time, which if anything seems slightly worse over the last couple of weeks.
Individual medications, or the synergistic effect of several taken together, are often the cause of low T. I'd say your prednisone is definitely in this category. Opiates is another big offender. Many meds effect, or depress the Pit gland, which then shuts down, or suppresses signals to your testes. I'm not suggesting you discontinue these other meds, but rather, they are likely the cause. Something you can't avoid.

Best of luck to you.

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Old 11-22-2009, 11:48 AM   #5
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Re: How long does testosterone gel take to work?

Thanks for the replies.

Re: medications. I am fairly certain the ultimate cause of this was chemotherapy I had a while ago. I have suspected the prenisolone has been causing problems as I have been on that over a year, but I am on a fairly low dose, and will hopefully be off it altogether in a few months time. Trouble is, when you have been on it a long time, you have to taper off really slowly because of withdrawal symptoms. I've also been put on prozac, although the symptoms of depression overlap significantly with those of low T. I believe Prozac can also reduce libido and contribute to ED. I have got some Cialis, which worked when I tried it. I think I am just reluctant to take yet another med, when I am on so many already. I also suffer from extreme sweating, hot flushes and shivers, which I am also hoping the testogel will address.

T readings: I assume they are the "normal" range for men of all ages. I asked about total T, but GP said there was only one figure reported. Either way, the ridiculously high FSH shows the pituitary gland is having to pump out loads of the stuff to try and keep things going.

To my knowldege, I have only ever developed one illness, which was the one I needed chemotherapy for. All my subsequent health problems are long-term or short term side-effects of medication, or withdrawal effects.

 
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