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Old 06-24-2012, 07:34 PM   #1
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Low T therapy & Estrogen blockers

This is actually my first ever post on one of these boards..So please be gentle..lol. Anyway, Im just wondering how many of you who have started Testosterone therapy have also been put on Estrogen blockers. I've read several articles where there is a possible link between elevated testosterone and an elevation of Estrogen. I recently (6 days ago)started injection therapy of Testosterone Cyp 1mL every 2wks. Noticed an energy spike for 1 day but right back to lower energy levels. Will I feel more energy as my levels increase (please tell me I will). I'm soon to turn 43 and really would like to start feeling normal again.

 
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Re: Low T therapy & Estrogen blockers

Welcome.....

Sorry to hear you had to join the TRT club.....it is a life long membership.

Couple things.......

Did your doc do sufficient dudiligence prior to putting you on TRT? Most do not look for underlying cause first.....sometimes there are better solutions.

Yes to answer your question T-Cyp can raise your E as it raises your T by a aromatse conversion....it's very common. I myself use a blocker to control E.

When starting TRT you will need monthly labs for first 6 months plus to dial you in on dosage of both T and any other meds. If doc isn't planning on this.....find a new one immediately.

Based upon the limited info provided.....your treatment plan is "old school" Bi-monthly injections yield lousy results. You spike high with big dose.....feel great then as it dwindles you slump until the next injection.....also larger the dose more conversion to E as there is access in your system.

New age treatment includes smaller doses more frequently, E control and addition of frequent HCG injections to prevent testicular atrophy. Also injections are Sub-Q not IM.

Personally I would discuss this with your doc.....if he isn't receptive then I would find another......the current treatment plan you're on is a recipe for failure and issues

 
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:06 PM   #3
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Re: Low T therapy & Estrogen blockers

Thanks for the info Boscot!! ... Doc ran several blood tests which yielded results of Vitamin D deficiency and T-level of 153. We have already talked about E blockers but he wants to see how I do with initial shots. I copied all the info in your response and will be talking to him this week. This is exactly why I joined this board. So I know what questions to ask my PCP as well as what to expect with the treatments. I will keep you posted as I go along. And once again, thanks... You've been a big help.

 
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Re: Low T therapy & Estrogen blockers

Glad to help.....suffered the same for a long time.....finally on right track thru school of hard knocks and lots of study

It takes some time for your levels to stabilize and there is good likelihood you will need some E control. Make sure doc orders male ultra-sensitive estridol test.....yes this sounds obvious but many labs screw up and do the female test and the results are worthless.

Frequent injections of T-cyp yield far better results in consistency and less E conversion HCG helps with testicle atrophy but also helps keep them alive and putting out ancillary homornes that help with libido. Some docs are resistant to prescribe but it works.

Vit D. I was also deficient.....it causes lots of issue.....D is building block for many parts of hormonal system....start supplements right away.....5-10K per day. I do same.

Feel to ask more this stuff ain't easy

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Re: Low T therapy & Estrogen blockers

Bos-man,

Ever thought of writing a quick "Be on the Same Page with you Md, T-tutorial"?

You seem to have a lot of test-imonial (mild pun) patient related, medical experience and knowledge that is to date, and I find your contributions very helpful.

ndfan: Was the 156 ng/dl a reading prior to any therapy? Good luck with your treatment, hope you get everything worked out.

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Re: Low T therapy & Estrogen blockers

brocolli

funny you say that.....honestly I don't feel that I am that much of an authority. A couple years ago when I started on this road I knew nothing.....and do to that I suffered and made many mistakes and wasted considerable amounts of valuable time. A gentlemen who was far more informed than me used to spend considerable time on this board. Hayfarmer was his tag....he is now somewhat retired, though I correspond with him on occassion. He helped me considerably in gaining knowledge. I now in turn am doing the same. I will however like he did at some point adducate to the next person....but until then I am trying to pay it forward to all who I can give a little help and advice too.

I have a great doc and he is really helping me....I am far from cured (are we ever???) but I am better. Much of what I am preaching I am living daily so I can feel good about saying it.

But yes to answer you query the same stuff is being repeated to similar sufferers.....maybe I should write it up and just cut and paste each time.....save some typing.

Glad to be helping a few suffering souls

 
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