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Old 12-29-2005, 06:41 PM   #1
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who has MS after surgery???

who here was diagnosed with MS after they had a surgery of some kind, namely one where some kind of metal was placed into their body? IE, titanium screws, plates, or other kinds?? please post if you have.

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Old 12-29-2005, 07:30 PM   #2
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Re: who has MS after surgery???

Scott
I had a titanium marker placed in one of my breasts because I have Fibroidcystic breasts that was in 1999

I then had surgery in 2001, 2002, 2003 and I think that the only thing that was left in was mesh, because of a hernia, I was dx'd w/MS Dec 2004

Do you think that there is a connection?

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Old 12-29-2005, 08:15 PM   #3
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Re: who has MS after surgery???

Scott,

I was diagnosed probable MS after a lumbar surgery with titatium disk spacers 7 years ago.After recent internet searches some sites on MS do discuss the probability of the 2 being connected.

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Old 12-30-2005, 07:19 AM   #4
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Oh my, I hadn't heard this before. I have a titanium rod in my leg and stainless plate in my ankle (motorcycle accident Sept. 1999) dx'd Sept. 2005.

 
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Re: who has MS after surgery???

My daughter never had a surgery before or after her MS started. But she did have a very traumatic event in her life right before it hit.

I've never heard or read of a connection between MS and surgery or pins/rods/plates, but I have read that many people with MS had a traumatic event trigger it - and surgery could be considered a trauma. Just a thought.

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Old 12-30-2005, 10:53 AM   #6
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Re: who has MS after surgery???

HI Scott
I had back surgery in the fall of 1991 for what they thought was cancer,six months later I was DX with chronic progressive MS.Not sure if there is any link between back surgery & MS but more people that I've talked to with MS,have had some type of surgery prior to there DX.

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Old 12-30-2005, 06:16 PM   #7
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Re: who has MS after surgery???

Very interesting thank you.

hears what i'm beginning to think, based on several things that i've read. and others think this as well, and you may have heard it.

first thing is our immune system is complex and amazing.. most everybody knows that. the metals man has used and created aren't native to the body. thousands and thousands of years ago did we put metal plates or screws or fix cavities with metals? no. and was there autoimmune problems like there is today? no. the number of cases of autoimmune problems is growing. so is it possible these FOREIGN substances that are being placed in your body can cause your immune system to FREAK OUT? yes. so obviously, having metal plates put into your body may stress out your immune system, causing it to be stressed out and overactive, as it tries to deal with the invader that won't go away.

people with MS, or any other autoimmune disease have a predisposition to get the autoimmune disease for one reason or another. wether it be diet through ones life, a gentic malfunction, a virus, whatever, they are going to get it some time in their lives unless certain steps are taken.

so, say you have a predisposition to get MS, or another autoimmune disease, and you get something like surgery, which is traumatic or whatever, and you get metal in your body. so everybody's heard that mercury is bad to have in ur body, and people believe this (heavy metals) can cause autoimmune problems. so getting other metals that people ARE allergic or sensitive to, such as nickel, gold, titanium, etc., placed in your body , will stress your immune system out, causing whatever autoimmune disease you had a predisposition to, to spring to life.

the reason i say this is, is because two weeks after having ACL surgery and having titanium screws in my knee, i have all these health problems, and everything starts going to crap. i'm not saying the titanium single handily caused my autoimmune response, but i have no doubt it aided it.

so i look up on the computer about titanium allergy, and find that it is widely ignored, and overlooked. i'm not saying i am allergic or you people are. but it is very important to find out IF you are. because if you try things like diet, supplement, meds and other things to get your autoimmune in control, and you have a allergic or sensitivity to something IN your body, something that isn't MEANT to be there, such as titanium, then your NOT helping your immune system at all. because its CONSTANTLY going to be stressed out.

so my point is get checked i guess, see if you are allergic to something in your body. its just like a food allergy, or anything else. not saying metal IS the cause, because maybe its the food your eating, or other environmental hazards around you. but your body is meant to heal itself, all you gotta do is find out whats causing your body to freak out, ie. food, metal, stress, etc., and fix it. then let your body do what it can. its worth a try.

scott

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Scott...excellent post! The only metal I have in my body are old fillings in my teeth and crowns on some molars. I received these fillings when I was 19 (43 now) and had no problems until after my latest crowns, which I just found out from a wonderful, new dentist who has a competent MS protocol as part of his practice, that these crowns contain nickel, to which I am highly sensitive. Ergo...I have suspected for the past two years that my immune system went into overdrive to respond to these foreign bodies to which I am allergic and did whatever mojo the body does that caused MS lesions on the brain. My dentist estimates that there is a minimum 50% chance I will feel MUCH better when all of this metal is out of my mouth.

Additionally...for years I have developed headaches if I wore earrings for more than 3 hours. I no longer wear ANY jewelry and with just a fraction of the offending metals now out of my mouth, I am finding some relief.

Thanks for the long post! There is NEVER a need to apologize for passing along useful information!

 
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WOW Scott, excellent research and KelliD your post is interesting because I experience pain in my teeth from time to time, like cavity pain and I don't have any cavities, I have it for a few hrs or a day and then the goes away.

I have LOTS of metal in my mouth I had lots of cavities as a kid

I will talk to my dentist, he is familiar with MS and figure out what I should do

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