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Old 04-22-2008, 04:18 PM   #1
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Symptoms of MS...? Where do I go from here?

Hello,

I posted the following on the Lyme disease board, and people were asking if I've been tested for MS. I had a spinal tap about 9 months ago when symptoms started (completely normal) and an MRI of the brain in August 2007 which I was told at the time was normal. When I changed neuros this month they told me the MRI was actually technically abnormal because there was "a spot on the left side" but they weren't worried about it. The neuro seemed a little intrigued about the pins/needles only happening in the hot shower when I rotate my shoulder and ordered a c-spine, t-spine and brain MRI...then changed her mind and cancelled them all. An "evoked response" test for the eyes was normal.

Can someone (pretty please) tell me if this sounds enough like early MS to warrant further investigation? I feel like the hospital has been dismissing a lot of my symptoms because I'm "too young" or -- my favorite -- "look too good" to have a "real" illness. I've had my body for 22 years, and believe me, I know something is wrong. It hasn't gotten better in 10 months, and I would really, really appreciate any input on where to go from here. Thanks!


<i>I'm 22 years old, female. I've been sick since July 2007. It started very suddenly overnight with heart palpitations, dizziness and muscle twitching. Over the next week or two I noticed muscle aches, prolonged dizziness/lightheadedness, muscle twitches and cramps, low fevers (99-ish) and very pronounced fatigue. The fatigue and fevers seemed to get better slowly over the summer but the dizziness and muscle aches in the neck and shoulders persisted along with some joint pain mostly in the wrists/fingers/elbows. Muscle and joint pain seem to wax and wane in roughly month-long cycles. Dizziness/woozy feeling comes whenever/wherever but seems to get worse with heat or sunlight and at the and of a period of neck/shoulder pain. I now get very noticeable (though not really painful) pins and needles in the hands during a hot shower. This disappears about 5-10 minutes after cooling down.

Doctors haven't been much of a help to me. I've had three blood tests for Lyme (negative) along with a lot of autoimmune stuff and no abnormal results. Consequently I've been told I have anything from generalized anxiety, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, depression, irregular migraines, or just plain full-blown hypochondria. I don't believe in the theory that it's all in my head, and my family and friends who know me well know that something is wrong. Enough random people told me my symptoms "sound like Lyme" that I sought out an infectious disease doc. in Longmeadow MA who thinks I have Lyme in spite of negative test results....</i>

 
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:32 PM   #2
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Re: Symptoms of MS...? Where do I go from here?

Hi, pantaleon. In answer to your question about your sx warranting further investigation for MS, I'd say yes. In order to obtain an MS dx there has to be enough clinical data and to a large extent, an MS dx is one of excluding other things. Things to be tested for usually involve B12 deficiency, TB, Lyme and if warranted, AIDs. (I'm probably forgetting a few but those are big ones.) The criteria specialists go by is the McDonald Criteria (updated in 2005) -- this involves a column A and column B type of episodes/attacks (called exacerbations) and things like MRIs and even though many of us were dxed without one, a spinal tap (LP/lumbar puncture).

Your MRI was not entirely clear so between that and your sx, it is at least reason to be watched and at the very least, journal your sx. MS lesions usually have specific characteristics like shape and location but sometimes it takes a long time for lesions to show up. (Disease activity is what causes the lesions.) Lesions can appear on the brain, c-spine or t-spine. I wonder why your neuro cancelled the tests now -- did you ask? She may have felt that it was too soon for another MRI. Did she suggest where you go from here? Also, do you have a copy of the radiologist's report from your first MRI? If you do, it might be helpful to post the "impression" at the bottom of the report here. No guarantees, but it might help us give you more insight.

 
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Re: Symptoms of MS...? Where do I go from here?

By the way, A LOT of us look "too good to have MS". Most of my friends don't even know I have it.

 
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Re: Symptoms of MS...? Where do I go from here?

Hello! It's possible that you have MS but you could have a million other things too. I don't know much about Lyme Disease, but I believe some of the symptoms are similar.

If you want to rule out MS, the main tests are MRI of the brain and c-spine and spinal tap. MS can unfortunately take a long time to diagnose because it progresses so slowly, and there isn't really a sure-fire test to use. Basically you need to rule everything else out first. It's good that you already had an MRI of the brain, so they have something to compare future MRIs to. That's how I got diagnosed.

Many of the people here have been told the same stuff before diagnosis--anxiety, depression, fibro, hypochondria, etc. The main thing to remember is that you know your body better than anybody. It can be discouraging but you have to keep trying.

If they think you have Lyme disease, are you being treated for it? Perhaps you could get another opinion. You could also see an MS specialist, who would know the proper tests to rule it out or to diagnose you. I would suggest that if you have any doubts to pursue it further. People are getting diagnosed pretty young now, and 22 isn't out of the question. Just keep in mind that for some people, it takes months or years to get a diagnosis. I know this is discouraging, but do whatever you can to find an answer. The sooner you get the right diagnosis the sooner you can treat this.

If you have any questions or concerns about MS, you've found the right place. Good luck to you!
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Re: Symptoms of MS...? Where do I go from here?

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Originally Posted by april1848 View Post
Hello! It's possible that you have MS but you could have a million other things too. I don't know much about Lyme Disease, but I believe some of the symptoms are similar.
The sx can mimic each other down to a 'T'. Even sometimes the lesions.

 
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