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Old 03-22-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
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Avonex and Supplements

Is it O.K. take Neuropower supplements with Avonex? Nueorpower has the following ingredients:

Pro-Vitamin A (as natural carotenoids: beta carotene, alpha carotene, lutein, zeaxanthin and cryptoxanthin) Betatene® 5000 IU 100%
Vitamin C (as Advan-C® mineral ascorbate complex) 200 Milligrams 833%
Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) 2000 IU 500%
Natural Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol succinate, and mixed tocopherols) 200 IU 667%
Vitamin K1 (as phytonadione) 300 micrograms 375%
Vitamin B1 (as thiamine HCL) 50 Milligrams 3,333%
Vitamin B2 (as riboflavin) 10 Milligrams 588%
Vitamin B3 (as niacinamide) 50 Milligrams 250%
Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine HCl) 50 Milligrams 2,500%
Folic Acid (as folacin) 2 Milligrams (2000 micrograms) 500%
Vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin) 1 Milligrams (1000 micrograms) 16,666%
Biotin 4 Milligrams (4000 micrograms) 1,332%
Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid) 50 Milligrams 500%
Calcium (as Advan-C® mineral ascorbate and calcium threonate) 20 Milligrams 2%
Iodine (as potassium iodine) 150 micrgrams 100%
Magnesium (Oxide) 200 Milligrams 50%
Zinc (as L-methionine) L-OptiZinc® 15 Milligrams 100%
Selenium (as L-Selenomethionine) Selenium SeLECT® 200 micrograms 286%
Copper (Amino Acid Chelate) 500 micrograms 25%
Manganese (Amino Acid Chelate) 2 Milligrams 100%
Chromium (as chromium polynicotinate) ChromeMate® 400 micrograms 333%
Molybdenum (Amino Acid Chelate) 75 micrograms 100%
Acetyl L-Carnitine HCl 1 gr (1000 Milligrams) *
Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 Milligrams *
Green Tea Extract (standardized to 98% polyphenols, 80% catechins, 45% EGCG)(leaf) 500 Milligrams *
Ginkgo Biloba (standardized 24% ginkgo flavonglycosides, 6% terpene lactones)(leaves) 240 Milligrams *
Choline (bitartate) 200 Milligrams *
Coenzyme Q-10 (ubiquinone) 200 Milligrams *
Pine Bark Extract (standardized to 95% OPC) 200 Milligrams *
Pomegranate Extract (standardized to 80% polyphenols, 40% punicosides) (whole fruit) 200 Milligrams *
Turmeric (Curcuma longa)(standardized to 95% curcuminoids)(rhizome) Curcumin C3 Complex® 200 Milligrams
Phosphatidylserine (SerinAid®) 100 Milligrams *
Lutein (standardized Lutemax® lutein extract) 6 Milligrams *
Black pepper extract (piper nigrum)(standardized to 95% piperine) 5 Milligrams *
Vinpocentine 5 Milligrams *
Boron (as amino acid chelate) 3 Milligrams *
Zeaxanthin (standardized Lutemax® lutein extract)(marigold flower) 300 micrograms *

 
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:59 AM   #2
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Re: Avonex and Supplements

The people best suited to assisting with your inquiry would be your pharmacist or your prescribing physician.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:18 AM   #3
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Re: Avonex and Supplements

I actually would NOT take this supplement. It has too many immune boosting supplements in it....
You need to be very conscious of immune boosting properties. Its important to be extremely careful, with MS that you dont trigger your immune system. Things like Green tea, pin Bark and Ginko should all be avoided...Your better off taking individual supplements. Things like a good quality fish oil, with Omega 3, taking an Omega 6 and 9, as well as Vitamin D3 (calcipherol) are important. Calcium is important, Tumeric is a good antiinflamatory- Magnesium is also good; however 99% of what is listed in your supplement is not going to do anything for you and 10% of it can actually trigger MS symtoms...
Although talking to your pharmacist is always a good idea; most pharmacists do not really know what affects MS or doesnt. My pharmacist isnt even aware of what Rebif or Avonex does..I get it mail ordered! I have found that talking toy our nurse at your MS center is the best source of information for supplements, or call a nutritionist.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:43 AM   #4
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Re: Avonex and Supplements

From what I have read and learned, any immune boosting items should be avoided. I am in the in between waiting stage, but I am even more convinced now that I may have MS. I started supplementing with a Naturopath this past year. I was told to take 8000 mg of Vitamin C for a couple days to clear my cold + a daily supplement with 5000 mg of Vit. A. 2 days later I got extreme Vertigo which lasted constantly for about 7 weeks. I still am taking Gravol for dizziness + Vertigo + that was October. I also suddenly got blurry vision about a month ago that comes + goes. I have had ON so the Dr wasn't sure, but also had an abnormal VEP 2 months ago. Like I said, started all this supplementation in the last year. Oh and in December the right side of my face + right arm went numb + still are.
So my advice is to stay away from immune boosting items. Too risky. But I am not a Dr. Just my opinion.

 
Old 03-25-2009, 08:57 PM   #5
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Re: Avonex and Supplements

Thanks so much for your replies, it's very difficult to figure out what the best approach is. I read Ann Boroch's book on healing MS, and she suggests taking a lot of these types of supplements as well as following a really strict diet. I tried the diet for three weeks and lost 10 pounds that I couldn't afford to lose and decided just sticking to a low fat, low sugar diet with plenty of fruits and vegetables is probably the best way to go. My neurologist says none of these diets or supplements that claim to heal MS have ever been proven to work and people who say they have healed themselves through diet are probably just in remission. Looks like I will be taking Avonex starting next week and I will definitely pick up some of the vitamins mentioned here. Besides Avonex, a healthy diet, vitamins and exercise, has anyone discovered anything else that can be done to help prevent frequency and severity of future attacks? Thanks a bunch!

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Re: Avonex and Supplements

Hi Debby. Your Neuro is right. The sad truth is there are more "snake oil" salesmen on the internet and in publish then anywhere else- especially when it comes to miracle cures.
I have spent a good amount of time with nutritionists whose advice I respect, along with some excellent MS specialists and Neurologists....they all tell me the same thing. Eat what you want. Stick to a heart healthy diet because overall, its the best thing for your system, for ANYONEs system. Dont sacrafice things you love, just do them in moderation, if they are rich in fat, or high in sugar, or even megacarbs! My weaknesses are carbs and ice cream. Both of which I eat almost daily- but in small amounts! I too, have to watch losing weight...at only 5'4 and 105 lbs, I lose it faster then anyone I know. The supplements which I mentioned to you earlier are not so much going to HELP your MS as much as they are going to keep your body healthy. There is some proof that some of the anti-inflamatories do help to keep symtoms at bay- and of course supplements with Omega 3-6-9 are important for overall brain health, thus POSSIBLY reducing lesions- but there isnt any proof. The proof is how it makes you feel....I tried after staying on all my suppplements for a year to go off them for a few months (I was having scheduled surgery and fish oils are blood thinners, not recommended to take the month prior to surgery) anyway, I can honestly tell you that my body didnt have the same energy level- my fatigue came back....but other then that, nothing really changed. Fact or fiction? Who knows....like most things with MS you do what is right for your body...and your body will tell you if it isnt right!
Be careful with exercising, especially now that the summer months are coming...overheating is the number one way to trigger feeling terrible. Keep your exercise to either air conditioned comfort and in small time frames, or keep it in the pool! Keeping your body temp regulated is very important. Nothing brings on a relapse faster then overheating. Be careful of heated pools in the winter..most places keep them at about 76 degrees. WAY too hot for MS patients (although perfect for arthritis).
MS is MS. THere is nothing that will stop a relapse, attack or a bad day....except your attitude. Plenty of rest, sticking to your shots, attempting to avoid exceptionally stressful situations (hey, we dont live in a bubble!) and of course eating a healthy diet and not overindulging will help..
As you go along, you start to figure out what works for you and what doesnt.
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