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Old 10-17-2012, 06:43 PM   #1
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Question Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Hoping someone might have some ideas on this. I'm not diagnosed yet but have just had a brain MRI without contrast as a first step on the path to who knows where.

My symptoms so far are intermittent blurred vision that alternates from eye to eye regardless of wearing my glasses. The vision thing started back in Feb this year. I also began having dizzyness/lightheadedness episodes from April through to August this year. Then as those episodes started to phase out, along came the numbness/tingling/pain symptoms.

So currently I get an icy burning spot on my forehead between my eyes that comes and goes every day or so and can last for hours at a time. Also a tingling tip of nose and occasionally left cheek feels not quite right.

Now my latest and most severe problem (mainly because of pain with this symptom) is the most awful feeling in my arms. It feels like the circulation is being cut off around the bicep area, causing a deep aching type feeling. At the same time I have a burning heat on the underside of both wrists, a throbbing pain in the fat part at the base of my thumb, and zapping electric type short pains that shoot through my wrist and also through my fingers. My pinkie fingers are prone to go numb. My left hand is worse than my right and at times I can wake up with that hand completely numb but it comes right within minutes.

The pain is really quite severe and sharp and leaves me in tears. This came on out of the blue in September but it isn't constant. There was certainly no build up to it. Just wham!

It sounds so much like Carpal Tunnel except that my thumb feels fine. It feels more like it's from my arms but why now.....and why both arms???

I'm so confused. Please comment

 
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:20 PM   #2
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

The pains I get in my arm was/is similar. It could be carpal tunnel. My doctor eliminated carpal tunnel. You might try cold compresses. When my nerve pain settled into my biscp and elbow area, I got most of my relief from a heating pad as the cold compress caused me to have a different pain. I hope this helps. Nerve pain is extreme and, for me, it is the most severe part of my MS.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:39 PM   #3
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Hi MSJayhawk, thanks for that. Can you tell me how they eliminate or confirm carpal tunnel please? Cheers

 
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #4
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

I just had carpal tunnel eliminated a couple months ago via a nerve conduction study... i think some refer to this as an EEG. The technician will use an electric stimulation of the nerve and that electrical impulse is measured on the machine. those measurements will tell if there is a problem with the nerves. My test included the peripheral nerves, the big ones that make the whole arm jerk, and the fingers. There are specific nerves that will be affected if you have carpal tunnel. The technician told me at the end of the test the results were normal, and the signed neurologist report that followed confirmed it was normal. I think some on here have had to wait on these results.

The test was not pleasant, but it is necessary in this limbo-land process. The electric stimulation feels like a mild sting, and of course may feel like the funny bone getting hit on the larger nerves. The last one tested on me was the main one that made my whole arm jerk. It was bareable and I did not need any meds for it. The feeling of discomfort left as soon as you would expect the "funny bone" sensation to end, pretty quickly.

Hope this helps and I am sure others can give you more accurate medical terms, wikipedia explains the medical terms and specific nerves if thats interesting to you I hope it goes well.

 
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #5
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Nerve testing (electromyogram [EMG] and nerve conduction studies), to evaluate any loss of normal functioning in the median nerve. Nerve testing for carpal tunnel syndrome is used in specific situations, where surgery might be the treatment option.

Ultrasound, x-rays, MRI, and a blood test to see if a thyroid or arthritis is the cause. Wrist splints to immobilize the hand and wrist to allow for healing. Sometimes you might be asked to draw a hand diagram to show the doctor your pain areas. When I first met my MS Specialist in 1982, he lightly poked my hand with a pin in those areas I showed him that were having problems. For him, based upon the observed problem, no other testing was ordered because he told me it was not Carpal Tunnel.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:53 AM   #6
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Mumof 10,
I hope you dont mind me jumping in, but I had just responded to your "numb butt" post when I saw this.

You seem to be having an awful lot of random symptoms...your eyes, the pain in your forehead, nose and cheek, carpal tunnel like symptoms in your hand/ fingers and now numb butt and legs? What type of doctor are you seeing? This is sounding less and less like anything neurologic and quite possible muscular. Having done a MRI without contrast only on your brain tells me that you are NOT seeing a MS doctor. That is not the correct testing to rule out MS- what else is this doctor looking for and how often are you complaining that you have these random symptoms?

Are you under extreme anxiety over this? I am not trying to make light of your symptoms, but anxiety can bring on these random (constantly moving) things as well....have you spoken to anyone who is really addressing what is going on and not just sending you for random tests?

Im not liking the process you are describing for figuring out what is going on with you. Are you taking any meds?

I honestly would be searching for a new doctor at this point, perferably a specialist who can rule out all the symptoms you have and figure out what is really going on....you definately need some help with this- as its not subsiding and every day is another symptom in another area of your body. I feel badly for you- no one should be suffering with head to toe ailments. MS isnt like that at all.

The info everyone gave you on Carpal Tunnel is correct. In under 1/2 an hour you can dx or rule out Carpal Tunnel with an EMG- the nerve conduction test. Ive had several of them as I have had numb hands/ fingers for more than 8 years now. I do not have Carpal Tunnel and it has been proven to be from a lesion in my brain affecting my hands.... You can get this answer by seeing the correct doctor and having the test done. Here, this is done in many neurologists offices..

I hope you start to have some relief soon. Try very hard not to dwell, but to ignore these symptoms...see if ignoring them makes them go away- but in the meantime- after you have this MRI, if you dont learn anything, please seek a specialist who will steer you towards proper testing.

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Old 10-23-2012, 08:51 PM   #7
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

I'm sorry I didn't get back to you on all these helpful suggestions. I apologise. I'm new to message boards and still trying to figure it all out. You may be right about me finding a new doctor but it's not easy without medical insurance. And as far as complaining to my doctor or specialist goes.....I don't. I'm not that type of person. I hardly ever go to the doctor. Haven't had any medication for donkeys years. But now things are going on with my health that might need to change. I've been to my gp twice for this, got referred to ENT specialist and a hospital physician, then referred through the public health system for an MRI, which the ENT guy organised and attached a note suggesting it be done within a month (instead of the 7 to 9 month waiting list)

I had that 9 days ago. I have no idea who to ring to find out the results and I'm not really one for hounding people anyway. I'm just trusting the Lord that everything will be okay and I have faith that whatever He allows to happen in my life He will give me the strength to endure. I'm actually more confused by my weird, all over the place symptoms. I've never had anything like all this before and it doesn't seem to be going away. I would dearly love to stop writing a journal of symptoms but if I don't then I can't give an accurate record or time frames to whoever might need to know.

I have a follow up appt in a few days with the hospital physician and I'm quite content to wait and see what he has to say. Apparently if I'm still having symptoms at that stage then he wants to refer me to a neurologist. In the meantime I thought I would join a couple of ms message boards and share with maybe a few others that might be in limbo land about things.

You said on the other thread that I had indicated somewhere that I keep doing symptoms checkers. Can you please clarify that for me by showing me where I said that? There's no way I can diagnose myself, I have far too many stupid conflicting symptoms. I may have diagnosed everyday common complaints in my family over the years, but most of that has come from 30 years of parenting experience rather than from the internet. Most of the internet stuff I've done with regards to my symptoms has been to read lots of posts from people that are actually experiencing ms rather than just the official ms sites because I put more validity in a personal testimony than on what an organisation puts on a site from bulk statistics. And the more I've read, the more I think I don't have ms. But what?? I have no idea. I don't want ms, but I would rather have that than a possible brain tumor or something. I dunno!

Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble. Cheers

 
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:18 PM   #8
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Stay Strong. I hope that you have a good visit.

Since this is all new to you, I would just keep a list of problems and work with a specialist. When I started my MS journey, I started with a blank slate. Whenever something "popped up", I would observe and then ask my neuro who was happy to help me sort things out. You can go to different web sites and compile a list of symptoms related to MS I built myself a list and have added to it as new things popped up which were not on the list, but they were confirmed by my neuro.

I would not worry too much because it looks like you have been blessed by some caring doctors who are trying to help you within the confines of your country's health system.

Just relax now and take it easy. Give us an update when you have it and feel free to ask questions or to vent.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:49 PM   #9
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Thanks so much for your kind words. I'm not worrying at all. Probably because right now I have very few symptoms, which I'm grateful for. I'm only just starting this 'diagnostic process' and yes, it is all new to me. I'm really far too busy for all this stuff going on but maybe that's the root of my problem. Going on holiday in a few weeks time for the first time in years. Have a great day (or night, I guess it's night for you)

 
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:11 PM   #10
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Hi, I have spinal problems and just had the ECG done a couple weeks ago (my second time in 2 yrs). My tests confirmed that I have Carpal Tunnel and Cubital Tunnel Syndrome. The Carpal Tunnel involves the Median Nerve which goes all the way up to the neck/spine and affects you from your wrist up to your thumb, pointer, middle finger and the inside of your ring finger on either hand. Mine is Bilateral, which means I have it on both hands. The Ulnar nerve (involves Cubital Tunnel Syndrome) also goes all the way from your neck/spine to your ring and pinkie fingers, which Cubital Tunnel will go from your Elbow to your two fingers (ring & pinkie). Usually the ulnar nerve will get impinged at the elbow and go down to said fingers. It can also get impinged in the spine in the foraminal I believe, which is part of the vertebra. I would wait and see what your MRI results show. I haven't ever heard of anyone having the face and head problems that you mentioned from carpal or cubital tunnel syndrome. However, I could be wrong. But I'm thinking that it might be another problem. Maybe some other nerves getting impinged or something like that?
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:14 AM   #11
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Re: Severe wrist/hand/arm pain???

Thanks for the update SueBee, I hope youre Carpal Tunnel works out with treatment..
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