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Old 09-15-2008, 11:24 PM   #1
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Question How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

I have been reading posts here all day everyday...and some of what I have read states that you have nerve damage...how does this happen and how do you know? Just curious?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:08 AM   #2
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

mostly,you kind of rely on certain symptoms such as numbess or tingling or pain or what are called "parasthesias"(bizarre sensations or feelings of something happening to your body?). then having an EMG would actually show whether or not the nerve flow to/thru any nerve is affected or being impeded by actual damage or something that is somehow impinging or compressing a nerve to the point where the flow impairment shows with changes in the velocity. thats about the only thing an EMG really can do,find solid nerve flow impairment. it wont show intermittant/posistional typs of impingment tho unless the nerve itself is being impinged at the time of the test.

nerve damage itself can happen in just about any type of actual injury/surgery,it all depends on what areas get affected. then there is good old spinal damage/deterioration that can impinge or compress any given spinal nerve too. disease processes can also damage nerves as well. neuropathic types of conditions are also indicators of real nerve damage/loss too. as in peripheral/diabetic neuropathy. then there is of course actual spinal cord damage/injury that can damage a ton of different nerves and nervous systems too,only it occurs mostly all at the very same time since it is IN/on the cord itself.

anything that simply can damage a nerve such as the above,will show itself in some level of symptoms. anything that is actually governed by any given nerve will be definetly affected in some ways. does that help at all? marcia
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:06 AM   #3
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

Nerve damage can be a "catch-all" phrase based on the types of symptoms someone may have. However, NCV (never conduction velocity) tests can be done that can actually show there is a deficit in the intensity and/or speed at which certain nerve signals travel. Any deficit in "standard" numbers would indicate some sort of damage, which then would be determined as the cause of the various pain and discomfort symptoms. Now, as to WHAT causes nerve damage, that can vary greatly. Diabetes is probably the leading cause of peripheral nerve damage, usually affecting the feet and toes first, then can progress up the legs and involve the hands and arms as well. Chemotherpapy drugs can damage nervous tissue, and again will usually be most noted in the peripheral nerves first / most. Certain viruses can attack the nervous system, peripheral artery disease can choke off adequate oxygen to the peripheral nerves, and damage to any number of nerve fibers and pathways can be caused by trauma, surgery, pressure from joint problems. Statin drugs for cholesterol can strip the myelin sheath from the nerve fiber (hey, it's removing fat from your bloodstream, it can remove the fat from cells in the myelin sheath too!) Neuropathy symptoms can occur from temporary shortages in blood flow or temporary pressure on nervous tissue, not neccessarily leading to permanent damage and lasting symptoms. Neuropathy is usually caused by something, not a disease in itself. Though when no cause can be found and there seems to be a history of it in a family tree, sometimes it is considered to be hereditary. I'm not sure why doctors believe this: not so long ago they didn't know some of the causes they know now; i'm sure previous generations' "unknown" causes were things we can test for today. In my support group there was a woman with severe diabetes and neuropathy. She said her neurologist said it was "idiopathic"... no known cause, and probably hereditary since her mother and aunts suffered from it, and she believed her grandmother too based on symptoms. All were some level of diabetic. Uh, gee, ya think there might be a link with diabetic neuropathy? Diabetes would be the possible hereditary link, not the neuropathy in itself. I stopped listening to my doctors when they said "oh, well, here's an increase in your pain medicaiton then, see me in a couple months if you need more".... there was "nothing" they could do. Hogwash. Never give up! and NEVER let them convince you there is nothing to be done. See my postings here for more on that. I am no longer on any pain or sleep medicines, I know longer have to see a podiatrist to keep check on my feet, I do not need my walker any more and I can drive again.... and I don't have to use the handicap mirror hanger when I go to Wal-Mart! I can park wherever I want to and make it into the store fine!... Slow, i'm in my 80's, but I make it fine! Nothing can be done. HAH! The only follow up appointment that I'm keeping is the LAST one to my neurologist.
I hope YOU don't have any neuropathy and were just on this site to look around. If you DO have neuropathy of some sort, there is A LOT to sort through here and all the doctors and "specialists" blah-blah-blah. But be patient, don't take "no" for an answer. Push, Push PUSH for more than a pill or the 5-minute consult that gives nothing more than the offer of a pill and no sympathy. Patrick

 
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:22 PM   #4
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

Hi, I question should I, with SNF, unknown cause,
Get any images of my spine?
Can burning, stabbing, tingling, needles, aching & numbness
Be related to spine?
Now fingers starting with slight numbness and tingling.
Hard to accept only Meds for pain.
Doing serious research and have supplements.
Thanks and best wishes.
Beth

 
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:23 PM   #5
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

Hi, I question should I, with SNF, unknown cause,
Get any images of my spine?
Can burning, stabbing, tingling, needles, aching & numbness
Be related to spine?
Now fingers starting with slight numbness and tingling.
Hard to accept only Meds for pain.
Doing serious research and have supplements.
Thanks and best wishes.
Beth

 
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:14 PM   #6
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

Patrick,
If your pain has decreased,please tell us what meds you have taken.Every Doctor I go to just experiments on me with new drugs.
I have "constant" PAIN ,24/7 and none of the drugs do anything to help.I have gradually got so bad since 2 surgeries 13 years ago.
I had a Thorocotomy ..left lung,then later,Ganglionectomies down my spine.Have gradually got so bad,can do nothing but the computer and to bed.I can walk,but am disabled...When I take Norco or any kind of pain meds,the pushing raw sore pressure is just worse pushing under my ribs.I am totally constipated and have to take Laxatives to help releive this.If I can't pass gas,I hurt so bad,it is torture.
They have tried just about all the drugs there is on me and they do not help.Am allergic to many of them.My stomach is bloated out,looks like I am 9 mo pregnant.I am 75 now.Please..DOES ANYONE HAVE THESE SYMPTOMS??????HELP!!!!
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

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Hi, I question should I, with SNF, unknown cause,
Get any images of my spine?
Can burning, stabbing, tingling, needles, aching & numbness
Be related to spine?
Now fingers starting with slight numbness and tingling.
Hard to accept only Meds for pain.
Doing serious research and have supplements.
Thanks and best wishes.
Beth
I do not mean to hijack BonBons post but I will answer your question. If you have been dignosised with SFN you are most of the way there in your treatment and testing.

Yes those symptoms can be related to the spine but with SFN they are also normal. At this point about all you can ask for is sympathetic treatment of the pain and other issues. I am fortunate that my PCP prescribes my pain medication and my neurologist prescribes Lyrica.

Good luck, start a new post and many will chime in.

 
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:52 PM   #8
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Re: How do you know if you have permanant nerve damage and how does it happen?

Beware that you may not have ongoing constipation, but something worse when the nerves in your spine are damaged and don't tell you that you need to have a bowel movement.

 
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