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Old 04-29-2007, 02:29 AM   #1
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Where is the line

Can anybody help with this ?

I am wondering where the line between OCD and Insanity is drawn. Suffering from constant obsessive thoughts and health fears together with fear of death seems to me to be borderline insane or is that just adding another ailment ?

I suppose that provided one can live a reasonably normal life then OCD is a 'condition' but there can be days when it is really well beyond this description.

Is this madness ?

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Old 04-29-2007, 08:58 AM   #2
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Re: Where is the line

Don't let this get you down. OCD is nothing like insanity in my view easpecially where you are able to recognise the symptoms.

It's the old story - if you think you are mad you are not.

More liley that you OCD is just giving you more reason to become anxious.

Old 04-29-2007, 03:42 PM   #3
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Re: Where is the line

I'm not sure that is the line about which you need to be concerned.
Rather, if the OCD itself is bothering you (as opposed to the things about which you obsess bothering you), then it seems worth while to seek help.
This life is a rat race. We all are a little crazy.

Old 04-30-2007, 04:27 AM   #4
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Re: Where is the line

Thank you for your views.

Does anyone else fear insanity though or am I alone. One of the fears of seeking treatment is the classification as some kind of psycholigical condition.

Is OCD pyshcological or physical ?

Old 04-30-2007, 07:01 AM   #5
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OCD is most certainly psychological disorder. I would highly suggest that you seek professional help if you are not already, I've been going to therapy for a month and it has already helped me immensely. I look at it this way, IF something worse than OCD is going on with me I want to know so that I can get the treatment I need to control it.

Old 04-30-2007, 08:23 PM   #6
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Re: Where is the line

There can be a physical aspect too, otherwise medication wouldn't help at all.

Here's a way to think about OCD.

When we are born we have a wonderful brain with so much potential, but it has not yet learned many patterns that allow us to connect to the world.
Throughout life we learn patterns.
A couple of years ago I had eye surgery that radically changed the images that were sent to my brain. In some ways I had to relearn to see. Now the new ways of seeing are an established pattern and I rarely have to think about what I am seeing in order to see.

OCD is like a series of thought patterns.
Via cognitive therapy or medication or a combination of both or other methods we can at least partially disrupt these annoying, repetitive patterns.

Being diagnosed with a mental illness (e. g. OCD) does still bear something of a social stigma.
So, unfortunately there is a choice between getting help and bearing that stigma, or not getting help.
But if the OCD is causing behavior that makes people talk about you, well, then, the decision is obvious.

Old 04-30-2007, 09:13 PM   #7
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I don't think you can separate psychologtical and physical. It's all in one body And brain imaging studies show a difference in the physical construction of the brain in OCD. So it is an illness in the organ of the brain.
CBT and medication have both shown to help change this brain difference.

Why are you afraid of a diagnosis - because it means you must accept the fact that you're ill, or because of reputation?
It's nothing to be ashamed of.
And you're not insane. I sometimes feel I am, or fear insanity, but as others have said, if you're conscious that something is wrong and it makes you suffer, it's not insanity. It's just the high level of anxiety and discomfort of the symptoms that make us feel "crazy."
Best of luck, seek treatment

Old 04-30-2007, 10:54 PM   #8
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Re: Where is the line

I sometimes fear insanity, but then again I realize that if I'm messed up indeed in the head like that then, well, it's not the end of the world simply because I recognize it. Recognizing your thoughts are intrusive and out of control strongly correlates to having OCD. This actually draws the line your referring to. Research OCD on the internet and it's symptons. That's top 2 or3.

Old 05-01-2007, 11:17 AM   #9
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Re: Where is the line

Thanks for al your comments - they are very helpful. I think the conclusion is that treatment is better than endure.

Does anyone know if OCD is Genetic or how it develops. I have read that OCD sufferers are above average IQ and tend to be creative. Is this right ?

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