Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
Lol. I'm glad it helped you, I knew it would because it helped me and we both have religious ocd. Wish I could take the credit for that excersize but.. its from a book called STOP OBSESSING! you should pick it up if you can find it. It can definitely help. And its weird how it can help, i didnt think it would at first either. More than that I'm really happy you have been able to spend time with your family today. Thats whats really important, not your thoughts
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
Hi. I dont know if you will get this soon or not but Im kinda reaching out right now to anyone that has scrupulosity. I am engaged to be married and my fiance is newly struggling with these symtpoms. He prays constantly and says hes having horrible thoughts about Jesus and God. This is a new thing for him..we always knew he had a touch of OCD but never seen anything like this happen to him before. Its very extreme. He hardly sleeps anymore and when he does its because he has taken sleeping pills. When hes awake, he tries to busy himself with reading the bible or jogging. He has a hard time driving right now, he has to pull over and jog for awhile. He has told me, just the other day that he didnt know if he had the ability to love anymore. His mind is just so consumed. I know that he does love me. He doesnt want me to leave him. I need help though. For myself. I have a history of panic/anxiety attacks and depression is really starting to set in for me. Im so afraid that this is what the rest of our life will hold. Are there any medications or self help ideas you can give me? Im willing to do whatever it takes to find the person I once fell in love with.
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
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Originally Posted by adviceplease1
Hi. I dont know if you will get this soon or not but Im kinda reaching out right now to anyone that has scrupulosity. I am engaged to be married and my fiance is newly struggling with these symtpoms. He prays constantly and says hes having horrible thoughts about Jesus and God. This is a new thing for him..we always knew he had a touch of OCD but never seen anything like this happen to him before. Its very extreme. He hardly sleeps anymore and when he does its because he has taken sleeping pills. When hes awake, he tries to busy himself with reading the bible or jogging. He has a hard time driving right now, he has to pull over and jog for awhile. He has told me, just the other day that he didnt know if he had the ability to love anymore. His mind is just so consumed. I know that he does love me. He doesnt want me to leave him. I need help though. For myself. I have a history of panic/anxiety attacks and depression is really starting to set in for me. Im so afraid that this is what the rest of our life will hold. Are there any medications or self help ideas you can give me? Im willing to do whatever it takes to find the person I once fell in love with.
I believe there are multiple options. I think there are several internet sources for people.
Also, there are several books that are available. I think Googling "Scrupulosity Books" or "Pure-O OCD books" could help you finding additional information. It could provide you and your fiance with more understanding of the disease.
Basically, if I look at my own situation, I think your fiance is trying to block certain thoughts. Certain thoughts come up in his mind that he obviously doesn't want to have. He has a certain fear of thoughts. I believe in God but I am not religious, but I also apologised a lot when thoughts came up (a lot less now). However, apologising to these thoughts means keeping yourself busy thinking about these horrible, previous thoughts. If he could just let this (terrible) thought pass when it enters his conciousness, if he could just focus on other things, then this should probably result in much less bad thoughts.
Talking to a psychologist or religious counsellor might help as well, although I have never done any of those.
OCD/scrupulosity can be a terrible disease, but there are definitely ways out of it. Stay strong and don't hesitate to post on this forum if necessary
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Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
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Lol. I'm glad it helped you, I knew it would because it helped me and we both have religious ocd. Wish I could take the credit for that excersize but.. its from a book called STOP OBSESSING! you should pick it up if you can find it. It can definitely help. And its weird how it can help, i didnt think it would at first either. More than that I'm really happy you have been able to spend time with your family today. Thats whats really important, not your thoughts
Still you can take the credit for telling me about that exercise
I do not entirely understand what would be the goal of this designated time to worry though. You said worrying about thoughts could then wait until the designated time to worry (which I first interpreted as the time in which u can "argue" with these bad thoughts, telling yourself that everything is okay, etc.).
However, you said you should really try to freak yourself out during that time. How does that combine with letting a thought go, until the designated time to worry?
I am atm thinking whether I should have this designated time to worry at all. Are you still using this designated time to worry? Maybe it would be better for me not to have this designated time to worry at all. Because it doesn't feel good to try to think of all these bad, pas thoughts.
Hope you can provide me with an answer to that. Anyway, thanks again for your help so far
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
the more you struggle with the thoughts, (i.e. arguing, etc) the more power you give them. If for 15 minutes you just let them go, they will have less power over you because you will understand that they dont actually define who you are or are so illogical it will seem ridiculous to worry over. lol you should just check the book out, im not the best at explaining this.
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
It's been a while now. I still have OCD, although I think it is less than before. There is still a tendency to respond to thoughts. Although there are more problems of my OCD, I'd like to ask some advice on one of these problems:
Often, when I have bad thoughts, I apologise to God. I don't think I should apologize when a certain thought pops up suddenly when I am not even thinking about such topics. However, sometimes I think of reasons why it could maybe be good to apologize to God about certain thoughts in certain situations.
For example: sometimes I am still not letting certain bad thoughts pass. Sometimes I still pay attention to them. However, paying attention to previous thoughts or situations often involves getting the same bad thoughts again. When I get that bad thought again in such a situation, then I often apologize for thinking too much about previous thoughts and/or apologize for my bad thoughts.
However, with doing such things, I often start doubting after having certain bad thoughts, if I have not possibly paid too much attention to these thoughts.
Wouldn't it be better not to apologize at all for thinking too much about previous, bad thoughts, because this apologizing might keep me too busy with past thoughts and it often causes doubt to whether I paid too much attention to a thought or not? Or maybe just apologize to God once for all bad thoughts and for every time I thought too much about certain things, at the end of each day?
This OCD problem with me seems to be really complicated... I believe in God but I am not a Christian or follower of some other religion. I have my beliefs, but sometimes I think not having a religion can make it harder for me to trust in certain things. Christians have the Bible to read or a Minister or Priest where they can talk to, but for me it can be quite hard to trust in something. I wonder if my OCD would be gone if I had more faith... And I also wonder whether going to a phychologist would "cure" my OCD if this is the underlying problem...
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Originally Posted by RogerS
It's been a while now. I still have OCD, although I think it is less than before. There is still a tendency to respond to thoughts. Although there are more problems of my OCD, I'd like to ask some advice on one of these problems:
Often, when I have bad thoughts, I apologise to God. I don't think I should apologize when a certain thought pops up suddenly when I am not even thinking about such topics. However, sometimes I think of reasons why it could maybe be good to apologize to God about certain thoughts in certain situations.
For example: sometimes I am still not letting certain bad thoughts pass. Sometimes I still pay attention to them. However, paying attention to previous thoughts or situations often involves getting the same bad thoughts again. When I get that bad thought again in such a situation, then I often apologize for thinking too much about previous thoughts and/or apologize for my bad thoughts.
However, with doing such things, I often start doubting after having certain bad thoughts, if I have not possibly paid too much attention to these thoughts.
Wouldn't it be better not to apologize at all for thinking too much about previous, bad thoughts, because this apologizing might keep me too busy with past thoughts and it often causes doubt to whether I paid too much attention to a thought or not? Or maybe just apologize to God once for all bad thoughts and for every time I thought too much about certain things, at the end of each day?
This OCD problem with me seems to be really complicated... I believe in God but I am not a Christian or follower of some other religion. I have my beliefs, but sometimes I think not having a religion can make it harder for me to trust in certain things. Christians have the Bible to read or a Minister or Priest where they can talk to, but for me it can be quite hard to trust in something. I wonder if my OCD would be gone if I had more faith... And I also wonder whether going to a phychologist would "cure" my OCD if this is the underlying problem...
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
the problem with me is d same i get horrifying thoughts about my mom....n these tots r bad n nly bad.....it forces me to do things dat i dnt wnt to dey blackmail me by tellin u cnt do dis much for mom...my mom goes for walk early in d mornin but i dnt wnt to go as if eel i dnt need it...so these tos say if ur nethgn happens to ur mom den u r responsible for dat n if u dnt go den even god will blame u n i am tired of des self blamin tos i believe dat thinkin of sumthng n dat thing happenin is differen i havent seen d future hw i cn predict wads gonna happen....plz help me to cope my connection wid god is disconnected plz help....:mad :
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I m tired of getting thoughts abt GOD n am i so bad dat he is dng wd me lik dis... i luv him bt luvin him is making me mre weak towards situations me nt able to face anything because of getting punished and all....IS god so much angry on me sumtimes i feel like hell out here its frustrating....dnt knw wad to do how to remove fear towards GOD d way i use luv him is d way i have started hating him plz help sumone...
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
my boyfriend has scrupulosity and this is what he goes through daily.
his therapist told him to ignore the thoughts- dont answer them when they happen and dont talk about them, when he ignores the thoughts they do go away.
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
I love that there is someone else willing to admit these things. I do the quick after thought as well it's the just in case thought as you said think the bad thing then think positive to negate the previous thought.
I am a Christian woman and I have faith in God. I'm also human and not perfect so when these thoughts present themselves praying and opening the Bible are really the only cures.
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
thanx a lot guys me tryin to ignore them n tryin to gt out by baby steps lets hope for d best....n thanx for commenting on my posts....n for understanding things so
Re: Scrupulosity/OCD - bad thoughts about people or God
Do not feel ashamed or embarrased by any of your thoughts you post on here. All of us with OCD have had either the same obsessions os ones very similar to yours. It is the common cruelty of OCD. Any time you have a negative intrusive thought, try to "run over it" with a positive thought. When you think "Peter will get hit by a train" force it out with a quaint thought of a covered bridge in Vermont with an old steam engine pulling a train beside beautiful gold and red maple trees for example. It sounds simple and stupid but over time the bad thoughts will fade. Think of the beauty of oceans or the sound of a waterfall. It can and will get better. Good luck.
