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Old 08-27-2005, 07:32 PM   #1
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Going back on actonel..groan

I mentioned on this board that I haven't been taking my actonel for several weeks to see if the pain and side effects would subside. Well, on Monday it will be a month, and my muscle/joint pain is worse, my CD is giving me a lot of trouble as well. I don't know if the pain is from going off actonel, or if it's from the myalgia flaring and or a complication of CD. Who knows what negative changes the actonel has already made, and if these changes are still remaining in my system.
I went in to see my doctor the other day, and didn't even mention that I wasn't taking the actonel. He's the one that insists that I stay on it. There aren't many options here. So, here we go again.......I wish I knew what was going on???

 
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Re: Going back on actonel..groan

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I mentioned on this board that I haven't been taking my actonel for several weeks to see if the pain and side effects would subside. Well, on Monday it will be a month, and my muscle/joint pain is worse, my CD is giving me a lot of trouble as well. I don't know if the pain is from going off actonel, or if it's from the myalgia flaring and or a complication of CD. Who knows what negative changes the actonel has already made, and if these changes are still remaining in my system.
I went in to see my doctor the other day, and didn't even mention that I wasn't taking the actonel. He's the one that insists that I stay on it. There aren't many options here. So, here we go again.......I wish I knew what was going on???
But you have the last say about your body. Right? I think it important to respect one's own instincts. Doctors do not "always know best". What are your Dexa numbers? Have you read the book The Myth of Osteoporosis?

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Re: Going back on actonel..groan

Dorri, which doctor are you seeing who wants you on the Actonel? Family doctor, endocrinologist, rheumatologist, gastroeneterologist, gynecologist?

Can you tell if the pain is joint and bone or whether it is muscle? Sometimes we can, sometimes we can't. And I've had muscle pain from rotator cuff syndrome that I would have sworn was upper arm bone pain.

Anyway, look to your CD as the cause. Especially since the direct CD symptoms have increased. Have you given any consideration to Enbrel, Methotrexate, Remicade or Humira? They would treat both the extraintestinal bone, joint and muscle symptoms as well as the CD itself, altho Enbrel is the least likely to soothe the direct CD symptoms. It could well be that the Actonel aggravated the CD which then increased the aches and pains, a double whammy so to speak.

I know when Actonel and Fosamax were first suggested to me I felt like I was being given a choice of disintegrating to bone power dust or being carved up like a turkey. I opted to take my chances with the osteoporosis and placate and keep the CD happy. Thank goodness for Forteo, I can now at least do something for my osteoporosis that isn't risking setting off my CD!

Good luck and God bless!!!

 
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Re: Going back on actonel..groan

Peregrine, thanks for the reply. No, I haven't read the book the Myth of Osteoporosis, but it sounds like I should. My last bone density was 2.6 at the spine and 2.7 at the hip. It's time for me to get tested again, but this past year has been so bad with my joints etc....I'm scared, because it feels like my bones are smaller so I told the doctor I don't want to go just yet.
But maybe that's playing the fools way out because IF the bone density test shows that actonel isn't helping, then maybe they will look into helping me with something else.

C2 thanks, I was in so much pain yesterday, that I crawled up and had a good cry. I do feel better today. My pain is in my joints and muscles, although the bone around my joints is very tender to touch. On some days it feels like I was lifting a ton of bricks all night and pulled or tore most of my joints and muscles. The pain is not in the long bones of my body. I got quite the lesson to differentiate, when I had a reaction to an iron infusion and ended up with pain in the length of my bones, this pain is not the same. I've been through a slew of tests with everything coming back ok. So the rheumatologist ended up diagnosing me with myalgia and arthralgia. Maybe I should take their word for it, and quit second guessing them, even though I feel that something must of set this off. My doctor is going to run some of the arthritis tests again, to see if anything shows up this time.
My family doctor, and my rheumatologist insist that I stay on the actonel. My gynecologist was treating me with Evista before I started Actonel. Unfortunately, my bone density test revealed that the osteoporosis had worsened, so he told me to take evista along with the actonel. I only did it for a month or so and dropped it soon after, because it seemed pointless to continue with a treatment that didn't help.
I complained to my GI about the pain, but he said he didn't know enough about Actonel to comment on it regarding the affect it may have on CD. He gave me prevacid to try to counteract some of the gastric affects..It doesn't really help that much.
I've been on remicade and didn't do well on it. I had extreme muscle fatigue that didn't go away after a few days, it continued for weeks. I had to hold myself up against the counter to do the dishes. It didn't do much for the CD either. They won't try humira because of my reaction to remicade.
I've also been on 6MP and didn't do well on that either.
My GI offered to give me an injection of methotrexate ( I think that was the name of it) but I declined because I had pain in more than one joint and from what I understood it was to be injected in the sore joint. ( I still don't understand it fully.)
I'm happy that you are doing well on the Forteo. Unfortunately, I can't get it yet but when it is available I will certainly be considering it.
Sorry this is so long , thanks for listening.

 
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Re: Going back on actonel..groan

Dorri,

Osteoporosis does not cause pain (unless you have fractures); however, the medicine they prescribe for it certainly can.

This, of course, is just my opinion, but I don't see that your dexa numbers are so extremely high that there would be that much concern that would necessitate taking dual medications. Please do read the Myth book. My problems started with those medicaitons and ended when I stopped taking them. You will do what you think best for your body, but I also woudn't buy into the scare tactics that are often employed by docs,often just out of ignorance of all the facts.

All the best!

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