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Old 07-27-2009, 01:18 PM   #1
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Strontium users...

I have questions about Strontium as I am considering taking it. I am particularly interested in those who have personal experience with using it. If you could answer any or all of these questions, it would be very helpful.

How long have you taken it? How did you come to the decision to start taking it? Do you work in consultation/conjunction with your doctor in taking it? Do you take it instead of taking calcium? Do you have osteoporosis or osteopenia? Has it helped you since taking it? What side effects have you experienced from it? Do you find the Strontium you use locally or do you order it online? How can you tell if you're buying it from a reputable source or if it is "pure" (for lack of a better term)? And why can't I seem to find it in stores that I walk in around here?

And, if you know, what is the difference between carbonate and ranelate (I've seen both terms associated with it).

I know this is a lot, but it seems like the more I read/hear about Strontium, the more questions I have and I am wondering if it could help me?

Thanks for any information!
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:47 PM   #2
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Re: Strontium users...

Lots of questions there, so I'll do my best to answer them for you. Been taking 680mg of Strontium Citrate for about the past year and a half. I purchase mine online, although I could also purchase it locally at my health food / vitamin shop. I made the decision to try this over the traditional road of Fosamax. All the studies I read were positive regarding the reduction of fracture risk. I then spoke with my endo and she was also open to the idea. I take this in conjuction with calcium, vit D-3, silica, and Vit K. My most recent dexa showed an increase in density in both spine and hip. As a result, the endo said to continue on with this course of treatment. Read up, stay informed and remain healthy. Best of luck.

 
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:39 AM   #3
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Re: Strontium users...

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Lots of questions there, so I'll do my best to answer them for you. Been taking 680mg of Strontium Citrate for about the past year and a half. I purchase mine online, although I could also purchase it locally at my health food / vitamin shop. I made the decision to try this over the traditional road of Fosamax. All the studies I read were positive regarding the reduction of fracture risk. I then spoke with my endo and she was also open to the idea. I take this in conjuction with calcium, vit D-3, silica, and Vit K. My most recent dexa showed an increase in density in both spine and hip. As a result, the endo said to continue on with this course of treatment. Read up, stay informed and remain healthy. Best of luck.
Thanks Todd, how did you start going to an endo...? What exactly do they do? and what is Strontium Citrate as opposed to carbonate and ranelate? (I'm sorry for more questions, it just seems like any information I find on Strontium raises more of them than answers them)

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Old 07-28-2009, 04:13 AM   #4
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Re: Strontium users...

Hi Kat these are good questions...Like anything else you have to do your homework and then decide if its right for you. take care...phyllis

How long have you taken it?.....I've been taking it for 3 years and will continue for a couple more..

How did you come to the decision to start taking it?.....when i was dx i took actenol for 2 months and never felt right about. I read about strontium and decided it was a safer route for me to take.

Do you work in consultation/conjunction with your doctor in taking it?.....My dr. knows im taking it and has seen my results but won't recommend it to others since its not FDA approved yet.

Do you take it instead of taking calcium?.....No, while taking strontium you need at least 1000 mg. of calcium a day, but not at the same time, they need to be separated .

Do you have osteoporosis or osteopenia? when dx. i had osteo in my spine and osteopenia in my hips...now both scores are in the osteopenia range.

Has it helped you since taking it?..... yes, my bone density has gotten better and i seem to ahve fewer aches and pains.

What side effects have you experienced from it?..... None at all.

Do you find the Strontium you use locally or do you order it online? I order it online.

How can you tell if you're buying it from a reputable source or if it is "pure" (for lack of a better term)?....that's a good question...you just have to trust the brand you take. I take NSI strontium and from the results i believe it is a good source.

And why can't I seem to find it in stores that I walk in around here?.....I think maybe because its not one of the more common supplements, but as more people give it a try we may see it on shelves.

And, if you know, what is the difference between carbonate and ranelate (I've seen both terms associated with it). ....the active ingredient in Strontium renalate is strontium citrate. SR or Protelos is the prescription form, the renalte is a salt that is added so they could get a patent. A natural supplement can't be patented

 
Old 07-28-2009, 08:13 PM   #5
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Thanks Todd, how did you start going to an endo...? What exactly do they do? and what is Strontium Citrate as opposed to carbonate and ranelate? (I'm sorry for more questions, it just seems like any information I find on Strontium raises more of them than answers them)
The endo was a referral from my primary MD. Their job is to look for any secondary causes of osteo/bone density issues.

It looks like Phylwill already answered the question regarding citrate.

 
Old 07-29-2009, 02:35 AM   #6
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Re: Strontium users...

I'm baaaaack... with even more questions

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How long have you taken it?.....I've been taking it for 3 years and will continue for a couple more..
Is that what the company recommends? Or, is there a study you could direct me to that suggests how long to take it?

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How did you come to the decision to start taking it?.....when i was dx i took actenol for 2 months and never felt right about. I read about strontium and decided it was a safer route for me to take.

Do you work in consultation/conjunction with your doctor in taking it?.....My dr. knows im taking it and has seen my results but won't recommend it to others since its not FDA approved yet.
How did you approach your doctor about it? Did you refer the doctor to studies? Has your doctor ever referred you to an endo like Todd goes to?

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Do you have osteoporosis or osteopenia? when dx. i had osteo in my spine and osteopenia in my hips...now both scores are in the osteopenia range.
How encouraging!! Was there any way you could tell before taking another density test) that it was helping your condition? Do you also do strength training? (in addition to the hiking you and your husband do?)

Thank you for all your help!!

 
Old 07-29-2009, 10:48 AM   #7
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Re: Strontium users...

Hi Kat..you are on a roll...i'll send you another article that goes into more detail. when i decided to use strontium i just told the dr. what i was going to do. He wasn't happy about my choice but once i told him he was off the hook for any future happenings he said go ahead and try it. I also took him several articles about it and still do when i find something new. I was never sent to an endo but he did do extra test (parathyroid, vit d) to check if there was a secondary cause. I feel my osteo came from being hyperthyroid, not risk factors. I like to walk so i walk each day and weight train a few times a week. I enjoy both walking and had already been doing it so i just stepped it up a bit.

I don't really think any one thing we do does the trick, but a combination of all the things adds up to improved density. Do what you can and don't worry if what you do isn't exactly what the books, drs. or others say you are supposed to...stress isn't good for anything. Have a great day...take care..phyllis

 
Old 07-30-2009, 04:50 AM   #8
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Hi Katt I take strontium citrate since 2007 my last dexa showed no decrease in spine but increase in femoral neck my next dexa is in the fall so know more. I buy it online and take it at 9 30 every night... it is an adjustment starting out as you cannot take it with calcium or calcium products so i take calcium with meals and then strontium in nitetime. I have had no side effects. My reason for starting was "antifracture" I haven't had one since on strontium even tho stats show if you had a fracture 90 % certain you will have another within year!!! I know of another person who takes it and has not fractured but had at least 3 before strontium!!! So my belief is that it does reduce fractue rate and thats good enough for me to stay on it for awhile until something better comes along. I also take a bone supplement with calcium magnesium boron copper zinc etc plus vit k and recently added liquid silicon.... good luck and here's to stronger bones and my osteoporosis specialist advised me to stay on it but also wrote a PR for Evista of which i did not fill!

 
Old 07-30-2009, 03:45 PM   #9
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Hi Katt. Ditto on everything everyone else has said. I have been on strontium about 1 year after discovering osteopenia in spine and hips. My dexa after 6 months of use showed my spine back to normal. My hips did not improve but I really believe they will with continued use. I plan to stay on it for another couple of years and then decide from there. I have no side-effects and another bonus is that my teeth and nails are stronger too! My doctor knows I am on it but doesn't really believe in it so he keeps trying to get me to go the bisphosphonate path - I refuse! Blessings in your journey - jrose

 
Old 07-30-2009, 06:56 PM   #10
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Hi Katt.. I also ditto everything everyone else has said. I started taking strontium citrate in 2006 when my dexa showed osteoporosis -3 in the lumbar spine. Also began strength exercise and walk aerobics. Then 2008 got breast cancer. Had to stop all vitamins and strontium for six months during cancer treatments(surgery, chemo, radiation). But,I was able to continue the exercising(albeit a little less intensely). In December 2008 had another dexa. Had an increase in bone density of 10.8 %. Lumbar spine now 2.2. Went from osteoporosis to osteopenia. Before my diagnoses in 2006 I was a real couch potato, so I have to credit both the strontium and the exercise. I currently do walk aerobics at least 3 hours every week, and about 2 half hours of light weights. Have had all kinds of mris,cat scans etc. My cancer is in remission.I just found out that I am scheduled for another dexa this December. It seems when you are a cancer survivor they do them yearly, instead of every two years. I have been back on the strontium for the past few months and exercise has just become a way of life. I am hoping to get my numbers back to normal. Every time I see that commercial with Sally Fields....I think Phylwill and I should be on saying how we reversed it with strontium and exercise. Oh by the way, during my cancer treatments, the doctors pressured me like crazy to add a biophosphate into the mix. But I stuck to my guns, and when they saw the results of my dexa, they were astounded.

 
Old 07-31-2009, 01:01 PM   #11
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Is this better than forteo? I've been on forteo for two years and they say that's all you can do. I was feeling good and then I got a muscles spasm and they gave me a muscle relaxer and since then mu hip is hurting. The pain sure does mess with my head.

 
Old 08-02-2009, 02:48 PM   #12
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Thanks, everyone, your responses have been very helpful. I am certainly very encouraged by your improved scores. I plan on ordering some soon. I'm wondering, too, if any of you have heard of anyone using Strontium that it hasn't helped?

 
Old 08-02-2009, 09:25 PM   #13
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I don't think that any one thing (including biophosphates) works for everyone. Although I have not heard from anyone that strontium has not worked for. A lot less people take it because it is not fda approved. So it cannot really be compared. For me the gains have been very good. Stay away from soy products. Eat much more leafy greens, such as brocolli etc.Also have added yogurt and blackstrap molasses to my diet. Take 500mg of calcium citrate plus and try to consume calcium rich foods more often. Also take omega -3 fatty acids. Eat wild alaskian salmon more often, and spinach. As i have mentioned before I also exercise(walk aerobics and weights).If I cannot go out I use walking videos by leslie sansone. I am still not convinced that just one drug or supplement will change the bone density. It is a combination of many things. Also we are all so different, in our reasons for developing osteo in the first place. It is really difficult to say that what works for one, will work for another. Also I know that exercise is not always easy for others. Although I have read that in nursing homes with older people, there were studies to indicate that even moderate exercise daily, while sitting in a chair, with light weights was shown to be helpful. All of these things that I have mentioned can be approached slowly. Eventually they become like second nature. It is my belief though that trying strontium is the best bet. I have had no side effects.Also it does not stay in the system for very long, if you stop it. Whereas fosomax does, and reports of very many side effects have surfaced. Especially Jaw necrosis. So if you are planning any type of surgery on you teeth, many dentist will not even do it. I believe I developed this from lack of movement. Walking and activity is good for everything, the body and the mind, and spirit.

 
Old 08-03-2009, 04:07 AM   #14
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Walking and activity is good for everything, the body and the mind, and spirit.
Thanks, tomatojuice! I have exercised for years but my spine specialist advised me not to continue with high impact due to back pain. So, I basically do walking and the Leslie Sansone videos but am increasingly having difficulty reaching my target heart range with those (so I'm wondering if it's even doing my bones any good).

I hate strength training but have made a renewed effort to be more diligent with that as well. I found a great book I'd like to recommend here but haven't gotten around to reading the rules of the board to see if that's ok. The author has a special section regarding Osteoperosis in it so I thought it'd be good for people here.

Again, thanks. I kind of got off the track of this thread, but I appreciate everyone's responses and advice!

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Old 08-03-2009, 05:25 AM   #15
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Don't think reaching max heart rate matters, when it comes to increasing bone density. It is the muscles pulling on the bones that is important.I also avoid high impact, as I also from time to time experience back pain. I do not know if age has anything to do with it,but I am 59. Last year I pulled my back, lifting something, and was in excruciating pain for days.There are qiute a few different brands of strontium online. I use Dr. Best strontium bone maker. Do not know where you live, but here in New york city, most all health food and vitamin shoppes sell it. But you can find it online for 1/3 the price. In store it is about $30. for 60. Online can be got for $11 for 60. (much more feasable,esp. for me) You have to take 340mg tablets daily, and it has to be taken two or three hours after your last calcium.The best of luck to you.

 
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