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Old 11-03-2002, 07:34 PM   #1
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I am a 51 year-old man in relatively good health and in very youthful condition (171 lbs, 5'11"). A year ago I discovered that I had osteoporosis. Why? I had smoked cigarettes most of my life, exercised rather little and I was born in Upstate New York in a radioactive plume in 1951, the year of the highest atmospheric radiation from bomb testing in history. Strontium 90 got into milk and replaced calcium in bones. Plus I'm West Euro and my parents in retrospect suffered from it (both are dead).

I tried Fosamax for three weeks. At the same time, I took my two-year-old, twice-a-week gym practice and vowed to undergo 21 minutes daily of serious UNINTERRUPTED aerobic training (elliptical glider or at least running in circles in my living room with weights on my arms). I also do modest weight training a couple of times a week (I like being thin). I also increased my calcium intake, added Vitamin D (or cod liver oil) to my daily diet, and reduced salt, meat& fish consumption because they help strip your bones of calcium. I do still eat them, however, merely less. I also drink fresh green vegetable concoctions (kale, parsley, celery, bok choi) almost every day (note that chard can also shed your calcium, so avoid that).

After 12 months, my spinal bone density was UP by 3.4%, with my hips up 2%. This is from FRESH CALCIUM, not from Fosamax-style prevention of calcium shedding, which I decided is a healthy process. My cholesterol levels also fell by 35% and my eye pressure (which was threatening to put me on galucoma medication) fell by 20%. I am convinced that two or three more years of this will render spinal results that will not even be in danger of osteoporosis.

I am posting this because I hated Fosamax - it gave me diarrhea and a very weird, BLEAK depression for two days every week (I was on the once weekly regimen). Then I came to this site and found a lot of evidence that other people were miserable with Fosamax. I got my doctor's permission to drop it - he trusted me to follow through on the exercise as he knows me fairly well - and a year's result has proven to him and to me that ANYONE WHO CAN GET AROUND AND CAN EXERCISE MUST DO THIS INSTEAD OF FALLING INTO A LIFELONG TRAP WITH MEDS.

It is incredibly rewarding to choose exercise and nutrition. And I look better than I have looked for at least 10 years.

I'm posting this not to boast as one stranger to others, but to thank the board for educating me 13 months ago and to encourage those who are tempted to take matters into their own hands. Last week I flew over my handlebars when a child ran in front of my bicycle and I landed on the balls of my hands and came down WITHOUT A SCRATCH or even a sore muscle. I was in shock, though, and my gears & brakes needed work. The kid was untouched, too, as I flew OVER him.

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Old 11-04-2002, 06:03 AM   #2
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i am 55 ..i am caucasian female thin with a small frame..i do not smoke or drink alcohol..i have taken a multivitamin for many years..several years ago i began taking oscal..i have excerised 30 min at least 5 days a week on the treadmill for the last 6 yrs...yet my bone density continues to lessen...i do not like taking medications but after trying fosamax and actonel for a short time and having urinary problems from both..i am now on evista..it is too early to tell if it is doing me any good..i wont know that til my next scan in may...you are very fortunate that you have been able to control your bone loss without meds..if only your approach would work for us all...but i just dont believe that it will................

 
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I'm sorry, but a mulitvitamin is NOT enough! I take two 500 CalMags daily, PLUS I drink a breakfast drink of calcium fortified OJ blended with a fresh banana & apple AND I generally juice the vegetables I discuss, probably five times a week (it's great with pizza) so that I am not jjst exercising, but keeping my body on a virtual calcium IV. I'm sure that there are problems that could arise from this (stones?) but those are minor minor minor compared with being left frightened to move.

One thing that helped a lot was that my doctor stressed from the start that the 21 minutes of sustained aerobicsx was the key to everything. So I do some weights 2 or 3 times a week, which is fine, but the glider and the running in circles (I have lousy knees and had two scopes which no longer hurt at all thanks to the daily exercise).

My condition is/was very bad, I might add. My spine reading is still way down in the bad zone. Next year I hope to be borderline and then leap out of the danger zone altogether. It helps that I view the exercise as taking my medicine and that Fosamax was so horrible that I would always rather blow oxygen through my system than sit around sick & depressed.

So I would suggest you need a LOT more calcium, after meals, and you must be certain to get the Vitamin D you need (sun, pills, or cod liver oil, which I started using per that old Doc Mercola, whom I discovered a month ago). We are destined to have this problem, but accepting it and getting on the drug industrial complex IV unit are CHOICES.

Good luck, madame.

 
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Thanks for your inspiring story. I too am trying to improve my osteoporosis situation without medication and it is great to hear that someone is successful doing that. Being male is a plus factor, though, as we women (especially post-menopausal women) have the disadvantage of losing a lot of bone mass when our hormones begin to shut down. Since receiving my bad news in September I have begun a program involving at least 35 mins of aerobic exercise 5 days a week, serious weight and strength training per Miriam Nelson's book "Strong Women, Strong Bones" 3 days a week, exposure to the sun (which I had been avoiding for years), increased vegetable intake plus seaweed several times a week for the trace minerals, intake of Calcium at least 1500 mg (I take a Calcium/Magnesium/Boron supplement twice a day) in addition to good dietary intake of calcium, also a multivitamin, C and E. I am looking for anything else I can do to remedy the situation. In March I am going to have a DEXA scan (previous was CT) and HOPE desperately that I will have some improvement. At that time I will make my decision about whether to take DRUGS. I am very concerned about the lack of long term studies on Fosamax and Evista and also about the unnatural things they do to bone. Please keep us posted on anthing else you add to your healthy bones program.
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as i stated..i do not just take a multi vitamin..i take oscal with d ..twice daily..i also eat breakfast cereals that are high in calcium and drink cranberry juice with clacium...a little over a year ago i had a problem with urinary frequency and blood in my urine.. i went for lots of tests .no cause was found and fortunately the problem went away on its own.. my own opinion is that it was caused by taking calcium and not drinking enough water..i have continued the calcium and now drink lots of water daily..but i am afraid now to go over the 1200 to 1500 mg of calcium that my dr has recommended ...i think it is great to put our own personal stories on this board..our successes as well as our failures...keeping in my that our way is not the only way..that there is no one size fits all magic bullet.no one wishes more than i do that i could be successful without having to take a daily medication....

 
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