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Old 06-07-2004, 10:26 PM   #1
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Unhappy People w- pain only topic they talk about? Help!

My mother is ill and I know I have to be understanding, but her entire topic of conversation is about meds, drs and pain she is having.
She has Fibromalgia,Gerd, Heart Disease(mild heart), Vertigo, high blood pressure etc. She is 70.
I try to be empathatic, but since I am healthy is it hard to understand and I look to God for answers.I cannot listen to it anymore and have told her I am not a DR and the professionals need to address this.
Sometimes I feel selfish for even thinking of myself, I am all she has, but because she is so focused on her situation, she has no other interests or life, she could be making her constant stomach pain worse.
I am a true believer that the mind can cause pain as well.
What do I do and how do I handle her.
Even the Dr's seem not to find what is causing her pain and we are now again with proceeding with another 2nd 3rd opinion.

 
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Old 06-08-2004, 06:58 AM   #2
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Re: People w- pain only topic they talk about? Help!

First off ..I mean no harm i n what i am about to say!!! My dad is 69..My mom will be 67 this year!!! My mom especially drives me insane at times!!!!
There are 6 of us kids..I am the baby...I often feel as if "i am the only child"
when it comes to their care.My parents arent in the best of health these days either...Many times i have been over there and wondered..am i gonna be talking about bowel movements and indigestion someday too???The answer is YES!!! I also took care of older people in their homes for 3 years..They talked of health problems as well ..most of the time!!! When you dont get out and socialize anymore and your health isnt the greatest..What else CAN you talk about???There will come a time when you wish you could hear your moms voice..see her face..This is what i tell myself when my mom is making me crazy!!! When we are children we all went through a "why mommy" stage...Our parents had to go through alot of ups and dpwns with us..Now its our turn!!! Thats how i look at it!!! Get your mom a puter then she will switch to talking about her puter friends..Its just the way life is!!! We speak of what we know and what we are surrounded by!!! Complaints or not enjoy your time with her..someday it will all be memories!!!! Make them good ones not ones you will feel guilt over!!! Thats my 2 cents!!!

 
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Re: People w- pain only topic they talk about? Help!

One thing you have to understand is that people always talk about things which are going on in hteir lives. Unfortunately for your mom pain is about all she has going on probably. You should take a long look at what you wrote and ask yourself if there is some way you may learn to be less shallow and self-absorbed. How ironic it would be if you were suffering the pain your poor mom is and then I'll bet you talk all about it too. Sound like a jerk to me.

 
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Re: People w- pain only topic they talk about? Help!

Hi there,

I just wanted to offer my experience to you as I've been where you're at now. I've been a caregiver for my entire adult life: my father (bedridden for 6 years due to six strokes), my grandmother (bedridden for 3 years with ALS), and lastly my beloved mother (whom I took care of for the last 15 years of her life).

Being the sole caregiver to an elderly parent is one of the toughest, yet most rewarding jobs you'll ever do even though now it doesnt appear that way. My mother died 8 years ago this month and I would give anything to be able to talk with her today, whether about the weather or her physical problems or whatever.

There is a very simple solution in dealing with elderly parents: make them feel needed! That's it. They have loss their independence, their ability to do for themselves, their livelihood. How would you feel if you loss all of that? They struggle to get up in the morning from pain (real pain, not perceived pain), they walk feeling like they're on a tightrope and could fall any minute with bones that are peanut brittle, they see thru eyes fogged by cataracts and hardened arteries, they hear thru ears that may as well be covered with earmuffs. That's just the beginning of their day. The rest of their day is dependent on someone else. They had to give up driving, they can't cook anymore because they left the burner on, they can't make it to the bathroom in time, they can't eat the things they enjoy, they fall asleep (if they're lucky) from the sheer exhaustion of existing. And then... it starts all over the next day.

When I was caring for my mother I had no social life. (I even turned down two marriage proposals during these 15 years and in the end it worked out so well cause now I have my current husband and could not imagine anyone else in my life!). It was no sacrifice to me as I felt it was the least I could do for what she has done for me. Sure, there were days I wanted to scream and just run out of the house. My faith was faltering terribly. But she meant too much to me. My days were filled with dr. appts, hospitalizations, changing diaper pads, cleaning up poop, cooking two meals each time because she had a hard time chewing, and yes listening to her complaints day in and day out. But I understood that she had every reason to complain. Her life was not her own. What I finally (!) figured out was her dignity was the only thing I could control and that is what I focused on. Just asking her questions (even though I knew the answer), asking her opinion on something (even if her answer didn't make sense), allowing her to reminenese (sp?) about the past which she knew much more about than the present day, reading to her in the quiet of the evening, letting her vent her frustrations that I, as a 30-45 year old, couldn't possibly understand. All these things not only made her feel valuable and worth something in this world, but it made it so easy for me to continue to be the daughter I wanted to be. It gave her enough self-respect and worthiness to better cope with the myriad of struggles she had to endure. And it was so simple.

Dear, with your mother being 70, I believe her pain is real. Just the fibromyalgia is a tough road for anyone, much worse for someone her age. I have it so I know and I'm only 51. I'm on strong pain medicine for it and a few other problems. I can't imagine having to deal with it without something for the pain. Trust me on this. It's a devastating syndrome to have. I do understand so completely your frustration. But your mother has a bigger right to be frustrated. How is it that the drs don't have any answers? You need to not search for just any 2nd or 3rd opinion, but find a dr. who is experienced in geriatric medicine (my mother's was a geriatric/internal med guy). Believe me, it will make a world of difference in your mother and YOU. They understand all the things I've offered here and much more. They know how to interpret the distinct complaints of the elderly and to turn those complaints into acceptance and answers. Something new that was not available to me for a long time is respite care. Places where your mother can be taken well cared for while you reward yourself with something that is important to you. Also, now they have elder daycares which do the same thing. And the Visiting Nurses' Assc. and Companion Care are worth their weight in gold! I used these services toward the very end as I was determined not to put my mom in a nursing home as long as I had breath in me). I feel I was a pioneer in this elder care "business", since 1972. Things really are much better now. You just have to be willing to seek out the help available. Granted your mother may be reluctant at first to accept these kinds of assistance. But please be patient. Just as a child needs constant nurturing, comfort and a feeling of security, so does your mother.

I'm sorry this post was so long. It's just that this is a sensitive and important subject to me and I wanted to let you know what worked for me. You will have some really difficult days ahead. It's important that whenever possible, even if it's just 30 minutes, "steal" those 30 minutes for yourself. You must remember that you are committing yourself to one of the most selfless acts of love a human can give another. Just remember to listen to your mother, really listen and put her dignity above all else and both you and her will get thru this with no regrets. I wish you the best dear. You really are a wonderful daughter and thru all of your mother's complaints, I'm sure she knows that and knows how blessed she is to have you. Take care sweetie. Linda

Last edited by lindao1; 06-08-2004 at 01:01 PM.

 
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Re: People w- pain only topic they talk about? Help!

sometimes when living with pain for a long time,the pain becomes the focus.which is unfortunate because it is the thing from which we are trying to escape.it is one of the pschyological aspects of chronic pain.anyway thats my 2 cents..scott

 
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