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Old 06-22-2004, 01:57 AM   #1
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lortab 20?\compound pharmacy

I always hear-if the lortab 10 isn't strong enough,then go to oxycotin-oxycodone. My question is,why not make a stronger dose of hydrocodone? I heard if you went to a compound pharmacy,they can do that,but theres not many of them around.

 
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Old 06-22-2004, 09:16 AM   #2
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Re: lortab 20?\compound pharmacy

I'd also like to know that. I barely get by taking the 10's, and am not sure I want to start taking the oxys. I'd like to know if there is another step between the 10's and the oxys because that is about where I am at right now.

 
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Re: lortab 20?\compound pharmacy

Well yea, there is a step in between. First off, I assume when you say "going to oxys", and the other things you said, that you were referring to OxyContin, the long-acting med. You didn't want to have to go all the way to that if Lortab (hydro) 10's didn't get the job done. Well, you can take just regular short-acting oxycodone, in any of its many forms, depending on what your doc wants for you (Percocet, Percodan, OxyIR, Roxicodone - all brand names of oxycodone). The mgs per pill go from 5mg to (I believe) 30mg, and tylenol content can be as little as 325mg.

Does this help at all? This what you were talking about? I hope so, but maybe I've misunderstood and got it wrong. Good luck all the same.

 
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Re: lortab 20?\compound pharmacy

The only reason to not go to oxycodone is that it'sa class 111 med and Oxy is a class 11. A compounding pharmacy can create anystrength Hydro compound you want, But why pay the enormous expense of having a pill compounded for you.
Hydro is 75% as strong as Oxy, Oxy is simply 25% stronger, Hydro is equal to morphine 1:1, What would be the advantage of using high strength compounded Hydro. I know a lady that had hydro compounded into long acting Hydro by adding Dextromathorphan, 100mgs of hydro and however many mgs of dex to increase the duration and add NMDA blocking ability.She took 3 100mg hydro capsules per day. No apap. If your alergic to oxy you would likely be alergic to hydro, they are both in thes ame class of Keto synthetic opiates.

Comeing off 300 mgs of Hydro really wouldn't be any easier than coming off 300 mgs of morphine or 200mgs of oxy. I don't see the gain other than the ability to presently fly under the dea radar. In a year or two that won't even be an advatage because hydro is so abused because it's not controlled the way class 11 meds are.

One 10/325 norco is equal in strength to a 7.5/325 percocet. I don't get it? What's the advantage. You are taking an opiate equal in strength to morphine, so abuse, dependence and withdrawal will be equally unpleaseant. Soon prescribing guidelines will equally tough. Are we talking about pain management or just prefering the way hydro makes you feel, apposed to oxy products or morphine products.

I would take a 10 mg perc over a norco any day although the Perc is more expensive even in generic, But when you start compounding meds, it becomes the most expensive version of that med you can get, you don't have the quality control, you don't have a Chemist/ pharmaceutical liason with the FDA to ensure QC or even potency. Just curious as to what people think the advantage would be? There is a a web site that sells a 15mg hydro with 35 mgs of apap. or there was, I'm not sure they are still around as most of the internet sources a simply a roll of the dice and adding your name to a database of a less then legitimate way to obtain pain meds.

I met a guy on the net that was buying the 15/35's from the net and was going through withdraswal from over 300 mgs of hydro a day, withdrawal is withdrawal, hydro isn't any easier, it has all the same side effects of oxy, If oxy makes you itch a high dose of hydro causes the same hystamine repsponse but that will deminish as you become acomadated.

If your internet source is outside the country how do you even know your not getting caplets filled with sugar, No FDA, NO QC, No gaurentee and the posibility of prosecution buying controlled meds from less than legitamate sources.

Within the next couple years Hydro will be a class 11 med too, It's the most abused prescription narcotic there is. Once it bocomes a class 11, The same rules and regs will be enforced, your use will be tracjked, your doc will be cmore closely watched, I'm just curious why someone would want to spend 3 times the price of pharmacuetical med?

I can certainly imagine why smeone would want a pure hydro capsule with no filling agents but bather than guesing why someone wants to spend more money on weaker meds, I'll just wait for an answer?
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Re: lortab 20?\compound pharmacy

I wouldn't refuse to be treated with oxycodone, just seems that theres a stigma attached to it and the things I've heard about pharmacies just refusing to fill them.

I didn't realize that flying under the radar was something people try to do by using the hydro.

I'd like to whatever (oxy or hydro) at the minimum amount required to treat my pain level. I don't necessarily like that my tolerance levels seem to go up so much initially, that if I need to come off of it, the harder it will be with the higher doses.

I guess there is a point when you have to jump up to the oxys, and even though you might get some attitude from pharmacies, thats just part of having to deal with CP.

 
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