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Old 09-07-2004, 03:10 PM   #1
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Unhappy Body Jerks at night

Does anyone besides me have body jerks while sleeping? I'm on methadone for chronic pain and I think this is the cause of the jerking, but I'm not positive. This never happens while awake, only while sleeping. I do take Klonopin, 2 mg at bedtime, but this doesn't seem to help. My doc also tried me on Mirapex, .5 mg at bedtime. My wife said the jerks were worse when taking this drug. I use to take high doses of Oxy for the pain and never had the problem. This has only begun since I've started taking the methadone. Can anyone relate or offer some advice? Thanks.
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:02 PM   #2
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Re: Body Jerks at night

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Are you aware of the jerks? Does it feel like you are falling like when you first start to fall as asleep? I had these while I was taking the muscle relaxer Soma. Sometimes I woke up and sometimes people would tell me about the jerks. I am curious, you mentioned that you were on high doses of Oxycontin, is there any reason you switched to Methadone?

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Old 09-07-2004, 06:00 PM   #3
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I get jeky every night as I'm falling asleep. I feel them. I'm on Mscontin & Dilaudid for bt.

 
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I have very bad jerks or a feeling like I am falling every night just as i`m going to sleep. I have never been on any of the meds that you are on. I am on the fentanyl patch and when in pain and can`t sleep take Ambien at night.I think I always had the jerks a little before I was on any medicine. The only other kind of meds I have been on is Lipitor and I see no connection with that and what i`m feeling.I don`t worry about it much just so I go to sleep. All I can say is don`t lay to close to the edge of the bed in case one is a bad jerk that will land you on the floor,lol. Good luck if you find out what it is let the rest of us know.

 
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Re: Body Jerks at night

I have them on occasion but have more problems with restless leg syndrome.
My husband on the other hand who does not take narcotics but does take a sleeping pill jerks so bad in his sleep you'd think he was having some sort of withdrawal.

 
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I am on Mscontin and get that. When I was on the fentanyl patch or oxycontin I didn't have it. My doctor just recently switched me from MSC back to OXYC because of these twitches but I wasn't getting the same pain relief so we switched back.
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Re: Body Jerks at night

Guitar Lover...You asked about being aware of the jerks. No, I normally don't know it happening. There's been a couple times I've been aware and that is when I've just gone to sleep and it woke me up. The other times my wife tells me about. As far as switching fromn Oxy to Meth, it was due to the rapid tolerance with the Oxy. I was up to 160 mg TID. I'm at a high dose on the Meth too, but it seems to be more stable and doesn't require the increases as often. Good pain relief too.
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Yess!! My husband has that and I noticed it since he started that darn meth..he's like you..been on the other...well oxy just after surgery, but up to 10's in lortabs...he only has one kidney is why the were worried about high tylenol levels....he jerks and twitches weirdly, stops breathing...he went to a sleep lab, and has central apnea, where you brain just doesn't tell you to breath...and guess what I heard said could cause that....methadone! someone else said his libido went south as well as hormone levels...same here...gonna see about getting on something else...it doesn't even help anyway..he takes 10mg three times a day..how much do you take?

 
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I've been on Meth for my CP for just about a year now (15mgs/day) and I know of the body jerking thing. I can't remember for sure if it's been the WHOLE time on Meth, but it's definitely been for several months now, like at least 6-7. But with my jerks, it's just one quick (& sometimes fairly dramatic) jerk motion, it's not a repetitive thing. Plus, I've not only had them while waiting to fall asleep, I've had it happen plenty of times right in the middle of the day. I'd be sitting in my chair at work, my body would do a big jerk involuntary, and my eyes would kinda creep around the room to see if anyone had noticed.

 
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hi director
i noticed since i started on roxicodone 2 years ago my legs have a tendency to jerk and sometime i feel like my body jumps when im tired after not sleeping for 2hrs kinda like being jolted awake from a bad dream i also notice i have to constantly move my legs around when i trying to sleep they dont wont to stay still
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Hi Boaz,
All of my body jerks have started since I went to Methadone. I had none before that other than the occasional jerk we all experience from time to time when we're just falling asleep. As far as the Methadone, you said your husband takes 10 mg TID. I always assumed it was from higher doses that causes the jerks to happen. Your husband's dose isn't very high at all. I take 180 mg a day, which is very high, but I had stomach surgery years ago, and everything just passes through my stomach and doesn't break down like it does in a normal person's digestive track. I had a perforated ulcer, so they had to remove about 60-70% of my stomach and some small intestine, so meds don't affect me the way they do other people.

I think Methadone is an excellent pain killer, and if your hubby isn't getting the desired relief from it, maybe he needs to talk to his doc about a bump up on his Meth. Does he use break through medication? I don't, but most people do, I think. Have your husband run it by his doc and find out if he thinks 50 or 60 mgs would do the trick for his pain relief.
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Hi Director,

I just don't know...it certainly is cheaper (Meth) but on other boards due to other side effects I'm wondering if he should switch, there are so many factors for this other big problem that we really don't know the culprit...see he has practically lost all sexual ability, doesn't even have desire, found his hormone levels are real low (now someone says meth made theirs drop) and got to the point he is and when he was switched to morphine he got better and didn't have to used the androgel. Which is where my husband is, he was being given the hormone shots along with Cialis to see if that helped...might as well been tic tacs....now the shots helped his overall being cause he wouldn't hardly move from the bed or couch.laying around crying (he doesn't do that) after the first shot I noticed him go back to like his old self, but his erectile ability didn't improve. So now onto injections....but he had surgery 5 months ago with fusion from L-4 to S1 2 and a half levels...and his leg is getting worse...going numb, having trouble walking very far....that is the whole reason to undergo the surgery , and to halt worsening progression. I feel so so bad for him, not only can't he not work, he can't do half the things he used to and now he can't make love with help...(don't get me wrong..thank goodness for that help) but throws spontaniety out the door..and the biggest insult of all is this is all from a bad work injury, and he's being treated worse than subhuman by those people, and it's going on 5 years fighting them at every turn.

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Boaz - I have all the sympathy in the world for you. But see, this is what's strange. I guess this is just another area where the old adage "every reacts differently to every drug" fits. Your husband's sexual desire has completely dimished from the Meth you say, as do a lot of others who are on it. But as I've even written about in my posts in the past on here, while on Meth for me (again, 15mgs/day, if amt would make a diff) my sexual desire hasn't really decreased much honestly, what's changed is that it takes me FOREVER usually to complete the act, as it were. It's as if I bought some kind of desensitizing gel that I can only assume must be used in adult movies and have applied that, because I can even sense within myself where the certain applicable nerves have been suppressed. But my libido hasn't really been a problem, it's the facilitation that leaves me wondering where the time always has gone, and often very exhaused too.

 
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Hi Boaz,
I think losing sexual desire and ability (in males) is normal and happens to a lot of us, especially those who are a little older. I don't think there is an absolute age where this happens, but I would guess somewhere around the 40 year mark. Switching LA meds would not necessarily help with this problem. I have had the same problems in this area your husband has, but I'm in my 50's and on much higher doses. I guess I'm somewhat surprised to hear about it happening to someone on a fairly low dose.

Back to jerks, which is the topic of this thread. Someone mentioned they experience them when falling to sleep. I'm not talking about these and if that is all I had, I wouldn't worry. I take Ambein and Klonopin before bed and usually am able to go to sleep fairly quickly. It's after I'm asleep my wife tells me I jerk and do so most of the night. I am taking the the Klonopin which is one of the meds they use for Restless Leg Syndrome and Parkinsons. Another is Mirapex. The 2 mgs of Klonopin hasn't seemed to help much and the Mirapex made the jerking worse according to my wife. I have DCed the Mirapex all together. I'm not sure what my next step will be, but I will most likely talk to my doctor about switching some pain meds and see if we can find something I get relief from and the jerks go away. My wife is the one who suffers from the night jerks and needs her sleep. She is working everyday and I'm home on disability. If anyone has any suggestions as to medications to try, I'd love to hear them. I really do need to make some changes, even though I'm doing pretty good in the pain relief from the Methadone. If anyone has a solution, please jump in and give me your ideas on a new or different medication.
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Director, thats what I'm talking about also. It's while I'm sleeping that it happens. I've jerked so bad during the night that my husband has woken me because he thought something was happening to me. I was told its the morphine that I'm on, but your on meth so I don't know the connection. When I was switched over to oxycontin the jerks quit but I wasn't getting good pain relief so now I'm back on MSC and the jerks are back. If you figure it out let me know.
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