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Old 01-15-2005, 12:40 PM   #1
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Is anyone on pain meds for spondylolisthesis?

Just wondering what you have found to be successfull. I am taking 2 Lortab 7.5/500 a day and Soma and either Valium and Xanax at night for muscle spasms and sleep. Hoever, the Lortab seems not to work as good lately.

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Re: Is anyone on pain meds for spondylolisthesis?

spondy,

i have instability issues and some bad discs.

in the begining i really wasnt getting much relief. the first 12 months after my back pain became an everyday thing, i was taking hydocodone. it wasnt until i switched to oxycodone that i started to feel a little better.
still on it at a higher dose.

its been tough,im still taking SA meds but most of the time the pain stays in check.a few times a year the pain gets unbearable and i spend a week in bed.i try not to increase the dose evertime i get a flare up.

ive since strarted taking soma and elavil.i do sleep better since starting the soma at night.ambien never kept me from waking up in pain 2 or 3 hrs after taking it.

i was taking lorcet until i was switched to percs.have you ever benn rx'd percocet/oxycodone?
that would be the obvious next med for your dr to try.

my pain was so bad for so long that even after switching to percs it took 2 weeks to really bring the pain down to a managable level.i remember being very loopy the first week or 2,slurring my speech,but still terrible pain.

i hope you feel better real soon.tell your dr how your feeling.tolerance is to be expected.

scotty

 
Old 01-16-2005, 08:28 AM   #3
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Re: Is anyone on pain meds for spondylolisthesis?

Hey Spondylo, The problem with instability and shifting of vertabrea, is that there is no amount of medication that stops the pain when things actually shift.
I've had 3 back surgeries, the last 2 were attempted fusion, the last from L1-S1, They all failed and I've broken both sets of hardware, sheared the pedicale crews off at the bone line, the screws in my sacrum toggle in holes twice the size they were originally.

I can be comfortable on medication or now with the pump, but when the hardware and vertabrea shifts, which it sometimes does with every step or sometimes does with slight movement, no amount of medication prepares you for the slippage and shifting, It sends a jolt throug my body that regardless of how high my pump is set or what meds are in it, It's not going to mask the pain of shifting and mechanical instabilty.

Meds can certainly manage the pain when your sedentary and stay in the same position, but once moving I never know when things will shift or move and nothing touches that pain. It stops me in my tracks and I break into a sweat.

Unfortuantely the only present answer for instabilty is fusion which surgeons grossly exagerate the success rate of whatever method they use, cages, or pedicle screws, postieror or global, grafted bone or donar bone, There are some new things out there I could tell you about such as new cages, new bone growth enzymes and proteins, but there has never been a statistical comaparison of effectiveness of one method versus another. Docs learn to fuse and continue to do it the way they learned.

Some are interessted in trying the latest hardware and the latest bio agents, but again there is no data on the success rate of one method over another. There s a new cage that doesn't use donar bone, they fill it with a bone growth agent and I can get some info about that if your interested, but cages are implanted from the front after complete removal of the disc. Very invasive.

If you have instability of L5-s1, anteror is defnitely the way to go as far as looking at it from a mechanical point of veiw. The sacrum is softer than vertabrea and doesn't hold screws as well, hence my toggling problem. the area they try to fuse from L5-S1 from a posterior aporach is like trying to glue a wing tip to another wing tip with no overlap. With what I know now, I would have gone with cages and an anteroior aproach, but hind site is 20/20.

You can medicate to manage everyday type pain, but you can't medicate enough to prevent the pain from mechanical disfucntion when things actually shift.

F you have already had a laminectomy discectomy, thpost laminectomy syndrome could likely be the cause of instability. They clip the spinous process off to reach the bulging or ruptured discs and without the interlocking spinous process, there isn't much to prevent movement from front to back, Your facett joints help some but they mostly prevent movement from side to side or slippage from side to side.

Nerve blocks can prevent the slippage pain temporarily, the usually do a medial branch block as a diagnostic test to see if a full block would be helpful, if the blocks are helpful then there the option of RFA, radio frequency ablation "destroying the nerve through RF or with chemicals, however nerves grow back and can can take a different route than previously damaged by such procedures which can cause even more pain if they can easily become trapped or impinged by instability and movement. There isn't an easy answer and several surgeons would likely give several different opinions based on the method they learned.
Good luck, Dave

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Old 01-16-2005, 08:30 AM   #4
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Re: Is anyone on pain meds for spondylolisthesis?

Dear Scotty,

Thank you so much for responding to my post. It was very encouraging. I have been suggested to try Elavil by two different doctors and I think I am ready to give this a try now. Maybe this will help with the nerve pain in my leg and with sleep.

I am not ready to ask for the perc/oxycodone yet, though I know this is probaby in my future. I do get some relief from the Lortab and will likely go up on my dosage since I am still taking a relatively low dose. I have a distant (25 years ago) history of drug abuse (pcp, sopors, etc.) so I am very cautious about the pain meds.

What are SA meds? I probably know this, but can't think of it.

Have you had any surgery?

Thanks again. I really appreciated your thoughts.

Karen

 
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Re: Is anyone on pain meds for spondylolisthesis?

SA= short acting meds, versus long acting meds for round the clock pain management. If you can get by on SA meds and function, I would stick where yur at. Once on LAmeds like OxyContin, MScontin, Duragesic and methadone, physical dependnce is inevatable, IT doesn't have to equate to addiction snce your reason for using them isn't psychologically driven, but even with agressive use of LA opaites "long acting" instability isteslf won't be slved and there is price a to pay even though it's simply physical dependence which can be resolved with a slow taper.
Good luck, Dave

 
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