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Old 03-14-2005, 09:17 PM   #1
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How to separate pain from addiction to meds?

My friend needs high doses of pain meds (up to 13 hydrocodone a day, plus a patch--then methodone, now dilaudid)--overall she's been on constant meds at high doses for several years, due to severely deteriorated discs. But I've read that each of these meds is addicting, even after only a few days, so what would years do?

It's not just that she's taking so much, but she has several red flags for abusing the meds-- taking too many and running out early-- ending up in the ER for a shot or IV, etc.....driving when she shouldn't, slurring her words, falling asleep while cooking, and etc. But she is so adamant about all of that being "normal" behavior, that it's nearly impossible to talk to her about it. Her response is " So you want me to be in pain?" And of course I don't. One time at the ER, when they asked her what she'd taken, she didn't tell them about the two hydrocodone she'd just taken before we got there--instead just told them her regular meds. The gave her a shot of Dilaudid 4mg, I think, which gave her a total of that plus the 2 hydrocodone, plus the patch and the methadone. After all that, she walks out under her own steam, and even thinks she can drive home.

Am I wrong in thinking there's a problem? is it none of my business? I'm just worried about her and I would so appreciate any comments/advice anyone has.

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Old 03-15-2005, 06:48 AM   #2
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Re: How to separate pain from addiction to meds?

I'm sure that the folks on the pain management board will be able to help.

 
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Re: How to separate pain from addiction to meds?

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I'm sure that the folks on the pain management board will be able to help.
Or since he/she is worried about the friend being ADDICTED we here at the ADDICTION board could give our 2 cents.

To answer your question is impossible for us. How much pain your friend is in is impossible for you to know. She has a real problem that requires pain medication. Maybe she needs more than the doctor is prescribing which is why she runs out early. Or it could be that she is taking extra for that extra feel good. There is no way for us to answer that if you who sees her all the time cant even answer it. I can tell you that opiates are very addictive but they are the most effective pain medicine there is. Every rose has its thorn.

 
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Re: How to separate pain from addiction to meds?

I don't get involved with the pain/addiction thing. The pain management board has lots of folks with the same problems(pain/meds). I have no answers regarding that Catch22. Good luck and I hope those at the pain management board can help...they've been there.

 
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Re: How to separate pain from addiction to meds?

thank you both for your answers. Justin, there is a lot of wisdom in what you said. I will definitely read the pain management boards.

Thanks.

 
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