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Old 05-22-2006, 10:06 PM   #1
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Can they do this???

I was wondering if anybody knew if they are allowed to do this.... My father has been taking Loracet 10 for approximately 2 years at 2 a day... Today was his monthly check up to get his refills... Once they called him back to a room a Nurse Practicioner came in and said the Doctor is gone and she dont know what she can do about any of his prescriptions... There was no notification of this to him at any point.. She told him she doesnt know what to do...She then preceeded to charge him with the visit but told him she couldnt help him with his medicines.... I was just wondering if we could report them or what we should do? There was no doctor present and nobody could tell us where he went... Thanks in advance for any advice...
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:57 PM   #2
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did she say that he would get his refills as soon as they locate the dr .The dr can just call them in to the phar. They can't charge for a dr visit if there was no dr and he can't get the meds(the reason he came in the first place).I would call tomorrow and tell them i want my money back futhermore tell them they need to do something because he will go though withdraws.Good luck please keep us posted. kelsey

 
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:36 AM   #3
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Hey Justwondering,

Conducter makes some good points. It seems like lately I have read and heard about so many NP/PA's overstepping their boundries. If the NP is filling in for the doc while he is gone, then the NP should just follow suit with what the MD has been doing.

Now I guess if the NP is actually taking over the practice (which I doubt), then I guess the NP could make his/her own treatment plan. But any physician knows that you don't just stop someones pain meds CT without a taper if that is the plan (which I doubt also).

Like conductor said, I would find out where the doc is. The old saying, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." Don't give up. Call back and ask to talk to the office manager. If that doesn't work, call back and ask to talk to another MD on staff. Dispute the charge with the insurance company. No services rendered.

Sorry your father has to go through this. But if this is the new way this clinic is operating, I would consider finding a new PM. But be sure to follow up with this one first to touch bases with the MD first if possible. Unless he's gone for good. If not, make sure he lets his doc know about what happened.

And last, if none of that works and the doc is gone, then maybe he should consider seeing him PCP and letting him know whats going on. Of course the PM will say he's in violation of the contract, but if they are providing no services to him, then I guess it doesn't matter.

I hope he can get this straightend out with the PM. I think finding out the status on his MD is the first step.

Anyway, thats my opinion. Hope everything works out.

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Old 05-23-2006, 03:56 PM   #4
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Ok.. as for the Doctor.. He is gone completely from the practice, no one would tell us what happened with him..he just disappeared I assume.... The NP said there may be a replacement in 3 to 4 weeks... She said the only thing she could give him for his pain was Ultracet.... There was no other Doctor in the practice (He has been there for 2 years with only NP's and him I am assuming) to call in the prescription until the new "replacement" comes in. The very strange thing is This incident all happened on Monday... The previous Thursday he (the missing Doctor) seen my father for a Cholesterol test... Then he vanished..... From what I ve gathered Ultracet is no comparison to the meds he was taking. I just didnt think it was right for him to up and leave... Thank You all for you help and Keep sending advice!!!
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Hi J.W.,

This is the most absurd thing that I've heard in a while! I can't imagine going to an appt. and seeing the person that I always see only to have them play dumb and say that they can't do what ehy have been doing for the last 2 years. Then telling me to go home, not even telling me about the withdrawals that I'll soon be facing since I"ve been taking this narcotic pain med. for two years. Oh yeah, and by the by, please settle up this bill for this appt. on our way out. My ****!!

Hopefully your Father has an emergency supply at home (yes??). If not you need to get him to a Dr. that will renew his Rx.. Going thru withdrawals would be very hard for anybody but if he is elderly ti will be dangerous. This is SO out of line.

I have no idea how Ultracet compares to what he has been taking though. In Canada I don't think that they are Rx'd as much here.

Good luck and please keep us updated!!

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Like other folks...I'm appalled! For a doctor to disappear as quickly as this one did, he must have done something wrong! Perhaps he's no longer among the living?? What a bizzare situation. Anyway, from what I know, Ultracet is not a true narcotic, but does have some narcotic properties. Perhaps it will be enough to hold your Dad until you can get a new doc. If he's going through withdrawal and feeling really bad, I wouldn't hesitate to take him to the emergency room. I'm sure once you explain your situation, an emergency room doctor would prescribe the Lortab for a limited amount of time. Was this doctor treating your father a pain management specialist? Have you asked the nurse practitioner bluntly what happened to the doc? It seems that your Dad deserves a straight answer after seeing this physician for several years. I wish you and your Dad the best - KathyMac

 
Old 05-23-2006, 07:34 PM   #7
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I think I would call the state medical board and see what happened to the doc. In my state, doctors are required to keep the medical board of any changes, discipline, termination, etc. You can actually search the states medical board to find out any discipline on the doctor for free.

Maybe his doc was disciplined or had his license revoked?? Who knows, but it sure sounds strange.

As far as the Ultracet, it is considered a synthetic opioid analgesic. It also has anti-depressant qualities to it. It can be a difficult med to get off of and the WD's are sometimes worse than with other opiate meds.

You should also have your father request his medical records ASAP. I would tell the office that he needs them right now as he will need to find another doc to treat him due to the NP refusing. And don't let them tell him that they will fax his records to his new doc. Make sure he gets the copies in his hand so if he needs to go to an ER or when he finds a new doc, he has those records ready. If he has a PCP doc, he should probably make an appt to see him ASAP as well.

If it were me, I would demand to know where the doc went as far as his practice goes. If he was disciplined or is being brought up on some malpractice issue, I would want to know that info.

Thats just my opinion though. I've been known to be a little outspoken when it comes to my health. It just seems like they are hiding something there.

Good luck. Keep us posted on what happens

 
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Hi JW
I have to agree with everyone here. I think things like that are so frustrating. But from the sound of it you dad needs to get to another doctor ASAP. It doesnt look like this practice will be able to help him and it would be a waste of time and money to keep going there without any help for his treatment. I mean what kinda cr*p is that. "I dont know what to do" then give you a bill. NO way would that fly with me. Just my opinion.
I would seek another doc and quick. I hope alll goes well with this situation and keep us posted.
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:15 PM   #9
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This is just an update.. No news about the doctor but me being as persistent as I am called and called untili they got him a 2 week supply or his Rxs which gives him long enough to find a new Doctor.. so hes doing ok... Ill keep you guys updated on anything I find out about the Doctor...
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Hey All!! I Was Just Informing Those Of You That Keep Up That We Have Found My Dad A New Doctor And Everything Is Going Great!! Still No News On The Old Doc Yet... Does Anyone Know The Address To The Ky State Medical Board Or How I Would Find Out If He Got Terminated From His Job? The Only Information That We Have Gathered Is That He Moved... But I Just Dont Think He Left In A 3 Day Spontaneous Move... And Why Didnt Any Of His Nurses Inform Us Of This?? I Would Once Again Like To Thank All Of You For Your Help!!
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