Re: Vicodin headache?
Just an FYI,but that caffiene being a dilator is backwards.it is actually a vasoconstrictor.that in and of itself can cause a rebound effect with a headache.if you are vulnerable to migranes,you might want to try,with your docs okay of course,to go off the elavil(just to see if this might help).i was on elavil for about two months way back when to try and see if this would keep my migranes from coming back,it actually made them much worse.don;t know why,but it did effect them.once i went off the elavil,things went more back to normal and i just went back to treating my migranes individually with midrin?this is really a great headache med for vascular type headaches and a wonder med for my migranes.this is a vasoconstrictor with also a very mild sedative effect.don't really feel that part,i just can function without the insane 'aura' that always comes before my migrnaes hit and then that throbbing headpain.this med has saved my sorry butt from many a migrane.been on it since it came out like in 1978?you might want to actually try midrin instead of vicodin for your headpain.
the reason vascular headaches require a vasoconstrictor is the way the headache syndrome actually starts and creates the headache.for whatever reason(can be stress,tension or even what normally can trigger migrane in you individually),the arteries will over constrict themselves which will create these sort of 'distress" type signals to be sent to an area of the brain that is telling it it is not getting enough blood/o2,what happens after all these signals keep getting sent is the vessels will OVER expand or dilate,not the normal dilation ,but a big over dilation which is what actually causes that throbbing and pounding.the part the vasoconstrictor actually plays in this whole syndrome is it actually keeps those vessels from the over expansion down to just regular expansion.you know what i mean?it just keeps them form overdoing that job.
the caffiene being in both fiorinal and fioricet is basically doing that very same thing.it is over expansion of arteries that cause the head pain,not the actual constriction.but the constriction can cause the tightening effect that leads to the headache,but then it is actually needed to correct the whole process again.kind of screwed up,but thats essentially how my neuro explained the vasoconstrictor role in treating head pain from a vascular trigger.
the big thing about caffiene tho is if you are using it everyday like in coffee or pop or even taking caffiene tabs just to keep from falling asleep on all the meds we take,is the brain gets used to that more constricted type of status since it is being kind of kept in that mode by regular intake of it,but when that caffiene stops being fed up there,THATS when you can get a big over expansion of arteries that WILL cause a horrid caffiene WD type of headache just becasue the arteries are not more constricted anymore.i got a doozy when i was in the hosp one time and did not take any caffiene that morning becasue i was having surgery.wow,about 4 o'clock,bam,i got hit with one hell of a headache,i finally figured out that it must be the lack of caffiene tabs so i got one out of my purse and within about a half an hour,that horrid headache was just gone.the arteries constricted down to the more "normal" size and the throbbing went away.caffiene is a pretty strong type of med actually just because of that vaso effect it has on arteries.something to just watch out for if you take in caffiene on a daily basis.hope your headpain gets better soon.marcia
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