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Old 02-29-2008, 01:47 PM   #1
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doctor took me off norco for no reason

This is my first time here, and I am suffering sorry..please bear with me.
I have an L1-L2 spinal fusion...L5-S1 collapsed disc DDD permanant nerve damage, blah..blah..etc..etc..had to resign in Jan 2008 and am in the process of going thru Cobra...
Have (or had..not sure) Pain Management Doc who was prescribing Norco and finally had some glipse of function and real life..fabulous!! After my last Ortho Doc visit, I explained my MRI had not been approved due to insurance lapse due to Cobra...without any warning, I received a VM from Pain Management Doc's Office-Manager explaining no more meds for me until MRI...(4 days ago) I have a physical dependenence (NOT ADDICTION..y'know the diff) and have left at least 4 messages requesting the Doc call me to explain and help me thru this horrible time since I cannot function since my mind is completely confused, body is shutting down, and pain is unreal..any advice?? Is this legal/ethical? And what can I do to get thru pain?? Thank you in advance...
Painful in NJ...

 
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:26 PM   #2
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Re: doctor took me off norco for no reason

blitz:
Welcome to the pain management board and sorry that you have had to come to us for support. I really think this is unreal what this PM doc has done to you. He really owes it to you to call you and explain why you are not able to go on receiving the medication that is helping your pain. I would be thoroughly angry and mad at the situtation and the doctor too. I think that it is definitely negligence although I don't know what the laws are in NJ. He should at least give you enough medication so that you are able to titrate down and not go through horrendous withdrawal which I know all too well because I have been through it. If he does not call you back, then you might have to go back to your PCP if you have one. You would have to explain the situation and ask if he would manage your meds. My PCP is the one that handles and manages my meds. How long have you been with this PM doctor? I can't understand why he would just up and cut you off since your insurance won't pay for an MRI? How uncaring and selfish is that. I am sure others will offer more advice and feedback so keep looking back and know that we are here to offer support whatever happens. I have some things you can do for withdrawal if you need it.

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Re: doctor took me off norco for no reason

Blitz-
I join in welcoming you to the community. I am also so sorry you are going through this. I hate to do it, but have to ask some questions so we can get a better idea what your situation is.

I understand your pain issues, but I also have to ask how long you have been with this PM doctor? You mentioned you explained the delay with the MRI, but didn't specify if you explained it to the PM doctor or not. If you did explain it, did you do it in person at an appointment, or via voicemail or leaving a message with the office personnel? If you left a voicemail or a message with the office staff, it could be that your message was thoroughly misunderstood or miscommunicated to the doctor.

Are you on other medications besides the Norco? Also, how long have you been taking the Norco and other meds? Either way, it's horrid if he just dropped you that way because of something you have NO control over.

This is a really bad place to be in, because if you call too many times, it could appear that you are harrassing, BUT your body is dependant on those meds, so we all understand the urgency to get this straightened out ASAP. Not only did they simply drop the script without notice or help, but they are not returning your phone calls. I know you want to speak with the doctor, and because you have no control over the MRI being approved, you shouldn't be punished. I know some doctors actually have rules about how many times you can call about any kind of medication issue. I know of one doctor that will only allow you to call once even if you get the voicemail (which is the case 99.999% of the time). BUT, if the call isn't returned, what is a patient supposed to do? Suffer until their next appointment. This kind of rule only works when you have a human being answering the phone and following up, or at the very least have a human being RETURN a phone call!!

I just kind of get the feeling there is some sort of HUGE misunderstanding here because most doctors won't simply do something like this unless they think you have done something that breaks their rules. I certainly hope that they will return your call so this can be straightened out.

We are all here for you. Please keep us posted.

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Re: doctor took me off norco for no reason

What's happening here is that the PM Doc is very, very cautious and unfortunately, you are caught in the middle. I'm not defending the Doc by any means, but he's probably had all kinds of patients who have put off or canceled testing to avoid being busted. So, the Doc has put in a stringent policy, and again, you're caught in the middle of a no tolerance policy. Unfortunately, you've got to bite the bullet and get the MRI and then make a follow up appt and explain the situation.

Again, not defending the Doc, but he's got patients by the dozens who scam and defraud him almost every day, especially if he's a PM Doc.

Good luck.

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Re: doctor took me off norco for no reason

I hope I am understanding this correctly.

I had a PM and when his office decided not to take my insurance anymore, He had me on the Fentanyl Patch and something else (I forget), anyway, He knew by law, if he saw me he wouldn't get paid, But if he left me high and dry with withdrawals, he could go to jail; So he told me how to wean myself off until I found another PM and then made appts JUST for me to pick up scripts (not to see him) of lower and lower doses until I was off of it.

It seems, until you can get the MRI, the Humane thing to do is help you with lower doses, there HAS to be somekind of law he has to follow. I agree, don't call too much, it makes YOU look bad and you want to make HIM look bad. Can you ask your Pharmacist? Believe it or not, they have LOADS of info, and if he can't do that by law, they will know where to send you to get help with your meds and with your PM.
Good Luck,
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