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Old 05-18-2008, 08:18 PM   #1
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Thought you guys might find it interesting to read about how we do it in Australia.

Some of the things we do are better than in the US, some worse, some just different.

1. We have a national health service.... the government insures everybody for health and sickness. You can chose your doctor, the government pays a set rate per visit, some doctors accept this as full payment, others charge about $10 or so extra

2. We have a national pharmacuticals plan..... the government subsidised drugs, and is the sole buyer, so drive prices quite low. They insist on price being linked to effectiveness. You pay the first $30 per script, the government pays the rest. Low income earners pay only $5. There is a list of covered drugs, drugs for trivial conditions arnt covered (nasal decongestants, hayfever remedies etc)

3. Most pain management is conducted by PCP's. Provided they obtain a second oppinion they can prescribe six months opoids at a time (one months supply and 5 repeats) Pain clinics at major hospitals are usualy used for terminal cancer patients or those who dont respond to opoids

4. The Australian equivalent of the DEA has no role to play in the medical use of narcotics.... it is soley a health department matter. To prescribe a narcotic for more than 4 weeks, a doctor has to notify the health department.... they supervise prescriptions to check for reckless prescribing or people obtaining scripts for more than one doctor.

5. because we are a small market, we have a somewhat smaller range of drugs than the US. The biggest lack I see is there is nothing between the weak narcotics (codeine/tramadol) and the potent ones such as oxycodoene and morphine.... no hydrocodone, or dihydrocodeine. Codeine Paracetamol isnt a controled drug, neither is tramadol. Indeed, we can buy tablets containing 500mg paracetamol and 15mg codeine over the counter.

6. We seem to love paracetamol/acetamonophen.... it is used for virtualy every pain patient, in a dose of 100mg 4 times a day, as a base which is built on, even if you are on Oxycontin or Kapanol, you will still be told to take regular paracetamol.

7. Chronic pain is still badly understood and treated by many doctors.

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Re: The Australian Experience

God bless the Aussie's! I swear if I hit it rich i'm heading out there. I have alot of friends over there and would love to live there. I love their medical program! It has Awsome sauce written all over it! Thanks for the post.


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See if you can get one of your manufacturers to start selling Vicodin here!

 
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Re: The Australian Experience

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The biggest lack I see is there is nothing between the weak narcotics (codeine/tramadol) and the potent ones such as oxycodoene and morphine.... no hydrocodone, or dihydrocodeine.
Yes, that is quite a gap. A real shame because a hydrocodone based product has a wide range of uses.

I have a question as a result.....In your opinion then, is most pain "under" treated.....Because Docs don't want to go to the Oxy level?

or

Is pain "over" treated....Because Docs go to the Oxy level due to no mid line, therefore most people are given meds they don't need which causes problems?

Thanks for sharing these differences. I enjoy learning about new things.

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Hi Aussie

I appreciate your post about Medical Care there. I have friends on some of the Message Boards from Australia. I am curious about how the doctors there treat Arthritis. If a patient has arthritic knees that need to be replaced with implants, would they be approved for surgery quickly or be put on a waiting list for a long time? Would their age matter? Thank you.

Sincerely Nadine

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