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Old 05-30-2008, 03:21 PM   #1
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surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

I am blown away as in my husband. Surgeons office called back & said he is referring me to PM but no more meds. I have never ever went outside any doctors order, infact have undermedicated. I am cluesless as to why he did this. His office gave me two names of PMs & said to pick one. I asked if he was going to call & help me get in & she said she did not know. I was so upset I just burst into tears, with everything I have been through this week I cant believe it. I called the osteos just to leave a message that I will need help quickly to get into PM & she said she would give the osteo the message monday. My husbund is stunned since this has been my biggest fear & the surgeon knew, I ask him last time I was in about PM & he put it off, because of seeing the osteo. I have enough meds if I stretch them till monday morning.
I am even afraid to take the Norco because then what do I tell the PM doc when the surgeon only has me on Percocet?
Cant even lift my arms in the morning & my hands have been hurting so bad, but the worst part is the chest & ribs. I have never been so afraid.
I feel sick to my stomach with fear. I told his office my last message that the osteo said I do need to be in PM but he knew that was my last option, I just don't get it.
How do I make my percocet last when I barely have enough to get through the weekend? My GP does not deal with CP at all. This is so wrong.
I swear as soon as one doctor knows your going to be seen by a new specialist this is what happens. I just cant live like this. I am more afraid then ever of having to deal with this. I have held on & tried to have faith but this is to much. Doing everything your told then to just be left hanging. I am so careful with meds its laughable. My daughter is outraged & feels I should try to get into another GP but then it will appear I am doctor shopping, & who would want to treat me? If I take other meds it will appear I am abusing, I have no ideal what to do & I am beyond desperate.
The office did say well maybe you can calll back monday & see if he will give you enough to get by, well I don't even have an PM appoinntment because none were in this afternoon & that is when the surgeons office called me.
I some how think if he wanted to give me enough to get be he would have done so.

My husband kept telling me not to worry because the surgeon said he wean me off if he but not do this, well I guess I had a reason to be worried.
Heck I don't even know if I should trust a PM recommended by him.
I am trying to stay calm but I am not sure what to do, if ever I needed suggestions it is now. Sammy

 
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

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I am blown away as in my husband. Surgeons office called back & said he is referring me to PM but no more meds. I have never ever went outside any doctors order, infact have undermedicated. I am cluesless as to why he did this. His office gave me two names of PMs & said to pick one. I asked if he was going to call & help me get in & she said she did not know. I was so upset I just burst into tears, with everything I have been through this week I cant believe it. I called the osteos just to leave a message that I will need help quickly to get into PM & she said she would give the osteo the message monday. My husbund is stunned since this has been my biggest fear & the surgeon knew, I ask him last time I was in about PM & he put it off, because of seeing the osteo. I have enough meds if I stretch them till monday morning.
I am even afraid to take the Norco because then what do I tell the PM doc when the surgeon only has me on Percocet?
Cant even lift my arms in the morning & my hands have been hurting so bad, but the worst part is the chest & ribs. I have never been so afraid.
I feel sick to my stomach with fear. I told his office my last message that the osteo said I do need to be in PM but he knew that was my last option, I just don't get it.
How do I make my percocet last when I barely have enough to get through the weekend? My GP does not deal with CP at all. This is so wrong.
I swear as soon as one doctor knows your going to be seen by a new specialist this is what happens. I just cant live like this. I am more afraid then ever of having to deal with this. I have held on & tried to have faith but this is to much. Doing everything your told then to just be left hanging. I am so careful with meds its laughable. My daughter is outraged & feels I should try to get into another GP but then it will appear I am doctor shopping, & who would want to treat me? If I take other meds it will appear I am abusing, I have no ideal what to do & I am beyond desperate.
The office did say well maybe you can calll back monday & see if he will give you enough to get by, well I don't even have an PM appoinntment because none were in this afternoon & that is when the surgeons office called me.
I some how think if he wanted to give me enough to get be he would have done so.

My husband kept telling me not to worry because the surgeon said he wean me off if he but not do this, well I guess I had a reason to be worried.
Heck I don't even know if I should trust a PM recommended by him.
I am trying to stay calm but I am not sure what to do, if ever I needed suggestions it is now. Sammy
Hi Sammy, surgeons are noptporious fopr just stopping meds. My client just had hip surgery 2 weeks ago, she called her surgeon for refills. denied! He said tehre was no way she could be in pain (she had a hip replacement!) He had her on Vicodan..laughable if it were not so sad. They cannot admit that surgery does not fix everything. anyway, back to you, If it wereme, I would call again (as you have nothing to lose) and tell them you need sufficent meds until you can see a PM, as you have been on them, and cannlt jsut stop them. Also, you can look for a PM on your own. Please do not get discouraged, tehre is an answer here, please advocate for yourself. I will have you in my thoughts and prayers.

 
Old 05-30-2008, 03:51 PM   #3
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

There are not words enough for me to say what I am feeling. Gosh darn it I was sooooooooooooooooooo afraid of this happening. Surgeon get scared all of the sudden and they no longer want to prescribe. I had this very same thing happen to me. I went in to get meds and the surgeon said, no. Praise GOD my gp took over the meds 2 weeks later. Call your GP if they are open and tell them you need an appt right away if they are still open.

Wasn't your doc supposed to write a new script today? So you are saying he denied it?

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Old 05-30-2008, 03:56 PM   #4
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Oh, Sammy I would not hesitate to take whatever you have in your cabinets to get thru to the pm. A pm will understand especially if they dropped you like this. They are used to seeing this.

 
Old 05-30-2008, 04:16 PM   #5
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

My GP wont deal with cp & yes he was suppose to give me a script. The message I got was he reviewed your chart & is releasing you & sending you to PM, but he did not write any scripts for you. Period. I now have a real fear of all doctors, & I am not kidding. I am scared to death & have no clue what to do. I am going to have to try the norco & I don't know, my husband is so mad he may call him monday, who knows. The surgeon knew I was afraid of being left in this pain, & I ask before about PM. I just don't get it at all.

 
Old 05-30-2008, 04:23 PM   #6
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

Sammy,
How many meds do you have now? What do you have and how much, if you dont mind me asking. There has got to be a way to help you thru this. Id have your hubby call too. you know, this guy is dropping the ball, so you arent risking anything by making him mad. I felt that way about calling my doc, and I knew it was either do it, of end up in the ER being worse humiliated and for SURE not getting anything but a bill for 500.00.
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:31 PM   #7
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

Sammy it is wrong that this happened to you -- but unfortunately this is common. It is WRONG and INHUMANE. Then I would start calling for help and work it every avenue you can for help. This osteo doctor that you are seeing. Ask him for help. Despite what your gp said before, you never know unless you ask and explain you need it temporarily. Push comes to shove, I would try the ER on Monday.

What we have to do is help you thru this anyway that we can.

Take a deep breathe and try to let the anxiety go because it will make your pain increase significantly.....easier said then done. Do you have any anxiety meds?

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Old 05-30-2008, 05:03 PM   #8
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

Oh god guys I am trying to not get to afraid. I am simply stunned.
My Gp has me classfied as CP & trust me they may give me a shot MR but that is about it, & the osteo Is more of a naturalistic doc, but she did say she would help me if to get into PM if I had to wait any length of time. I just don't know. Every doctor around here has narcotic phobia I think.
I have about 8 perc. left, which I can barely make it on 3 aday, I have norco probalbly at least 40, a few flexerril, skelaxin, motirn & even a couple of oxys left, I never took anything once I was switched thats what gets me. I am so darn careful & boom. I am one who really follows what I am told. Thank god I did not ditch it all, I almost did. I think I even have one vicodin left from a tooth issue. Although not everyting works for this pain.
How do you ever trust any doctors again? & what can I do with what I have left? Can't even call a PM till monday & sure does not give me time to look into which one would be best for me. In some sense I realiaze he did not even have to do that, but he could have given me a warning that he was weening me while I was getting into PM, something. My hsuband will problably call monday, I don't think I will be up to it, & knowing me I would probably loose it. I have been up & down since this diagnosis. I just try so hard not to let it get to me & this is it. What do you think with what I have?
Sammy

 
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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

Sammy, I am so sorry. I would try to make an appointment at one of the PM offices first thing Monday morning and then hopefully if you or your hubby called the surgeon he might prescribe for you until your pm appointment. I know you've said your gp doen't do cp, but could he prescribe for you until your pm appointment?

As for the weekend, I would take whatever you have to get through and if you have to, you can explain to the pm doc. I'm sure he has seen this kind of thing happen quite often before and as long as you have a prescription for it I don't think it would be a problem. I know it's easier said than done, but maybe one of these new docs will be the answer for you.

If you can, take some nice relaxing baths, add some good smelling stuff, (lavender is good for de-stressing) if you have it. Take what you need to manage the pain as best you can. I'll be thinking about you.

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Re: surgeon released me with PM recommendation but no meds to last

I stinks but it is true that many of us, me included, have had surgeons do this to us.

I think you would do okay going into the ER, take your med bottle, and tell them you need something to get you through the few days between now and when you can get in somewhere to see a PM doc, the ER can not only give you some percocets to help get through, they may be able to get you a referral to a local PM that will go through faster.

When my surgeon did this to me, he (without calling me) called the pharmacy but instead of my lortab 7.5 refill, he called me in 30 tylenol 3's and the bottle said take one per day as needed for pain.

Luckily I was able to go to my primary, but a month later he retired and moved, and I had to go to the ER until I could find a new doctor, they were really nice, the doctor there gave me percocets and muscle relaxers for a month and told me to come back if I needed to.

You do NOT deserve to be treated this way, I hope you can find some help soon, dont give up, and vent here all you need to.

Hang in there!
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:29 PM   #11
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I agree with Fabby....at least you have the norcos. I wouldnt let ANY one know what meds you have besides what this doc has given you. They dont need to know. all they need to know is you are high and dry, and someone has to help you. Is it after 5pm there? and friday to boot.
God, I thought I had it bad. Sammy, did I miss something but didnt the osteo tell you shed help you if you got with a PM doc? Im sorry if Im wrong, but I think she is your best bet right now. Cant you call her even on call this weekend and tell her what is going on??? sorry if IM missing something, but you ned to take whatever you have to stave off the w/d. Remember, deperate times call for desperate measures, and when you have no choice, you simply have to look out for YOU. At this point I wouldnt be afraid of messing up with a PM doc you dont even have yet. All you can do is take care of you right now. Im stunned as well...I feel horrible for you. Your letter could have been me, if my doc werent able to help me when I just lost it on the phone with him yesterday. I really knew it was my last chance, and I went for broke...you know we are here for you.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:04 PM   #12
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Honestly, this happened to me last September 2007 and I don't think I will ever completely trust any doctor again. In fact, I was just telling my hubby on the way home from the doctors today can I rely on my GP? One never knows but one should always follow the rules and take your medicine as dispensed which you have done. However, even if one does this it does not mean that you will not be terminated suddenly. However, I would like to hope that this will help you and that if you go in and talk to the surgeon he will at least give you a prescription to tide you over.

In my heart, I can't help but wonder if this something was misinterpeted or stated to the doctor thru the nurse and it was not what you said. Especially since he told you that he would prescribe until you go to PM. I believe Steve has been saying one should talk to the doctor face to face re: meds and it is starting to become very clear to me that this is true.

Honey, I hope that you know you have alot of friends here willing to support you. I would really try to turn it over to the LORD and take your meds this weekend. I just feel confident that things will work out for you. As much pain as you are having, I am sure the ER will come thru for you at least.

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"I some how think if he wanted to give me enough to get be he would have done so."

Sammy, you cannot assume this. What you need is obviously not on the surgeons mind. You have to tell them what you need. You call Monday. I would ask for an immediate appt. even if they have to fit you in.

You tell the surgeon, "I need a referral to get into a PM as soon as possible. A referral from your office will help me get an appt. quicker, and you will also know when my appt. is. Then I also need you to continue my medication until I have my appt. with the PM doctor. I have severe pain that is not going away. I understand that due to my severe pain, this specialist may be better trained to treat my needs at this time. I am taking your advice and going to see the PM specialist. However, due to the severe pain I am having, I need you to continue my pain medication until that time. I am already suffering enough, even with the medication. I do not need to suffer further while I await my appt. from withdrawals and unmanageable pain. Thank you very much for treating me as long as you have, and I would appreciate a prompt referral, and enough medication to get me through to my appt."

You need to make your needs very clear to this guy. Tell him exactly what you need. If he does it, and he should, who the heck cares what he thinks of you afterward.

Sammy, I am so very sorry. I have been through this myself with a surgeon. I had the very same above conversation with my surgeon, and while I could tell he didn't like it, (ego maniac) he did it, and that's what's important. Good luck sweetie. This will all get better, I promise. This too shall pass, it won't always be this hard.

Sending strength, hugs, and peace your way,

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In my heart, I can't help but wonder if this something was misinterpeted or stated to the doctor thru the nurse and it was not what you said. Especially since he told you that he would prescribe until you go to PM. I believe Steve has been saying one should talk to the doctor face to face re: meds and it is starting to become very clear to me that this is true.

Honey, I hope that you know you have alot of friends here willing to support you. I would really try to turn it over to the LORD and take your meds this weekend. I just feel confident that things will work out for you. As much pain as you are having, I am sure the ER will come thru for you at least.
I agree...look what happened to me with the pharmacist who interpreted her words from the doc and delivered them to me. I now have about 4 new ulcers...Im checking back every few minutes to see how you are doing....What is your hubby thinking??
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One more thing....I agree with Izzy and Fabby....no one needs to know that you have ANYTHING. That is YOUR emergency stash and believe me, if anyone knows you have it, they will make you take it and write you off. Also, what you do, and what meds you take now are not going to hurt you with a new pain doctor. In my appt. they don't care what you took in the past. They just ask to get an idea of what works and what doesn't. You are not under contract with them until you sign one! Hope that helps!

Your Friend,

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