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Old 05-12-2009, 05:59 PM   #1
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For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeri and questions re painful l

Hi,
I've been reading for almost 2 years and have come across many threads regarding Soma. About 1.5 years ago I asked my PM doctor if he would consider Soma versus Flexeril to see if it provided longer and better muscle pain relief (I am RX'd 60 pills/10 mg; 2 day). He stated "we use Flexeril here" - it was a statement and he did not elaborate further nor did I have a follow up, for example "why, or what is the difference". We have a better relationship this year - he asks after me, how the shots are working, etc. We've gone up a level in doctor/patient relationship. That said, he's aged and sometimes forgets things we have talked about (on a personal level - for example he asks me every time if I work and when I remind him, it comes back to him but I have to smile because we talk about my job monthly).

When I first read about Soma during my CMP research, I would come across CMP threads and people who suffer from fibromylagia and 75% of the time, Soma was the DOC for muscle pain. If anyone takes Soma and/or Flexeril and/or has tried both, which one did you prefer and why? I want to add that my DX is CMP. My muscle pain is not referred that I am aware, I have an EMG's and MRI's - my dx is DDD, scoliosis, CMP and L5/S1 disk degeneration. One PM specialist I saw wanted to perform nerve ablations - I am still thinking about it because I'm still in too much pain. My understanding is that with fibromylagia, the pain is all or most group of muscles. My is pretty much limited to my back (below the rib cage in the back, where the scoliosis is and all doctors I have seen say that scoliosis is not painful - mine is - I can't get anyone to understand the scoliosis/muscle pain relationship. The scoliosis is moderate and my job requires me to be in front of a computer screen for up to 14 hours on some days.

Thanks - I appreciate your feedback. I am rx'd 60-10mg every 30 days, 2 a day of the Flexeril - it worked great for about 6 months but feels almost like a placebo if I take just 10mg on bad days, I will take my 2 pills at once, around 7pm when my back muscles are screaming.
Thank you. I will also go back and refresh my memory/research - thought I might find some views here.
TIA.
Tara

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Old 05-13-2009, 06:25 AM   #2
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeri and questions re painf

My PCP only believed in Flexeril and my PM prescribed Soma for the 1st time. Soma works for me now as Flexeril did wear off fast in the long run

 
Old 05-13-2009, 08:41 AM   #3
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

I've taken both and to me the soma works so much better. The flexeril was ok but it put me in a really bad mood and just didn't seem to last that long. Of the two I would say soma is the best.

 
Old 05-13-2009, 11:35 AM   #4
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

Thank you - that's 2 for 2 for Soma! The flexeril has worn off for me unless I take 2 10 mgs (20 mgs) and my instructions are to take as needed so PM doctor is ok with 20 mgs at night.

I appreciate the replies. Thanks - I may raise it again with my PM and PCP doctor.
Tara

 
Old 05-13-2009, 12:52 PM   #5
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

Hi Tara I have never taken Soma but I would love to try it and will ask my GP next time I am in the office. I take several types one is Zanaflex, flexeril, and robaxin and I also have slexen. I am a pharmacy of Muscle relaxers. I feel that flexeril works great BUT it makes me so sleepy and out of it. I can only take a 10 mg before bed and the next day I still feel the effects of it. It is so potent there is no way on gods earth I could take 2 of them.. LOL. it really knocks me on my hiney. I would ask your PM DR again about the Soma He won't remember that you asked him about it before so just ask him what his thoughts are on it that way you will know as your not sure why he isn't prescribing it to his patients. Have you ever tried Zanaflex? I like it b/c it doesn't make me sleepy and it works really well. and is cheap there is a generic out now for it. I don't take them every day but I do use them several times a week. Robaxin is also good but it makes me dizzy so I can't do much on it but its a good one too. I would tell your DR that the flexeril isn't working anymore and could you try something else. see what he says. I have heard of a lot of DR'S moving away from Soma as its addicting. Not like narcotics aren't though but for some reason DR'S are shying away from that drug and I am not sure why. It's an older drug and lots of people swear by it. I am anxious to try it myself.. I think it might have abuse potential as well so maybe he is fearful that it will be abused.


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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

I too found that flexeril stopped working for me so my doc prescribed skelaxin. That did nothing so then he gave me zanaflex 4 mg. It was WAY too strong. I tried the 2 mg and it was still strong. I stopped taking them for awhile and I have started to get bad again so I had an appointment on Monday and brought it up and he wants me to try 1mg of the zanaflex. I'd like to try soma as I have never taken it but I'll have to wait and see how the 1mg does and then go from there if it doesn't help. I've heard many docs don't like soma because it has addictive properties.

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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

Thanks SS and Melissa - I had read it has abuse potential but I agree, so does the pain meds and I have stayed at a low dosage for long spells (2 years) so I don't quite understand that train of thought when you compare it to Oxycodone, which has abuse potential......

I did try Skelaxin once and I don't think it made me drowsy. The flexeril only make me a little tired.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll upate if either doctor agrees to try a different med - I believe one can become so tolerant to a med that mixing things up could probably help? Edited to add, I have never tried Zanflex and have never heard of it so I'll look that up.
Thank you.
Tara

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Old 05-19-2009, 04:21 PM   #8
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

Soma works much better. Of course it's been a while since I was prescribed flexeril, but I dont remember it doing much. Didn't make my sleepy either. Soma may make you sleepy at first.That was my experience, however that effect wears off after a few days to a week .

I don't know why they make these meds then docs don't prescribe them. Soma isn't even a narcotic or scheduled med I don't think. Though I'm sure before long they will have it that way if they can.

 
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

We don't have Soma in Australia but after looking it up, I really can't see it being any more addictive (much less actually) than Valium. I don't have fibro or CMP but I do get some major muscle spasms at times. The only thing that works is valium when they are bad. My doctor has no more issues with prescribing them than oxycontin and xanax. Provided I take them as directed, there's no problem. If your dr has an issue with it, perhaps explain that you've been taking other potentially addictive medication and always take it only as directed. Flexeril really makes me dopey and detached, I can't communicate if I take it. I'm sure that Soma does have some addictive capacity, but like anything, if used as directed, for pain management, you should be fine. It seems unfair if this medication will provide relief that you're obviously not getting from your other meds - I really hope that your doctor sees it like this. Perhaps if it gets to the point where he really doesn't want to rx it, you could suggest having a pill count for the first couple of weeks/months so that you can reassure each other. Sometimes we have to use desperate measures to get through to our drs.

Good luck, please let me know if it works, I wish we had it here (although I don't need it everyday as you do).

 
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

Docs still have meds they prefer to use and ones they avoid. Personally Flexerill became completely ineffective within 6 months of my intinial injury, After trying skelaxin, Zanaflex, Robaxin, Baclofin, I ended up on soma back in 2001 and still use the same dose. The thing docs don't like about Soma aside from the abuse potential is the street value. Soma metabolizes into an older tranqualizer called Milltown which can cause physical dependence. In the end it's all trial and error and what works best for you.
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Re: For those who take muscles relaxants - Soma versus Flexeril

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I have heard of a lot of DR'S moving away from Soma as its addicting. Not like narcotics aren't though but for some reason DR'S are shying away from that drug and I am not sure why. It's an older drug and lots of people swear by it. I am anxious to try it myself.. I think it might have abuse potential as well so maybe he is fearful that it will be abused.


Good luck
This is what my new PM doc says, that "Most PM docs don't prescribe this anymore, as it has a high potential for abuse and there are other meds that work just as well."

BS if you ask me.

I've tried Flexeril - couldn't function, way too out of it, but worked well
I've tried Robaxin - worked OK but not great
I've tried Zanaflex - didn't do a damn thing
I've tried Norflex - works OK, handle it well
I've tried Parafon Forte - useless
I've tried Skelaxin - useless, and expensive
I've tried Soma - by far works the best with little side effects

But my PM doc believes they are an evil, drug-seeker type drug and simply will not prescribe it. It would be ironically funny if SOMETHING ELSE WORKED AS WELL!

My opinion, it's always worth a shot.

 
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