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Old 08-06-2012, 12:25 AM   #1
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Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

Hi Everyone,
I hope you all are doing well.

Well tomorrow morning at 8:30am I have my first appointment with the spine specialist. I am of course super nervous. My first fear is that this practice does not have good reviews at all. I think out of 15 people that reviewed them online everyone but one person gave them one star. That scares me!
Also my best friends husband was sent there a few years ago and they were not very nice to him at all. My husband is going with me and I have made up my mind that if they are rude to me or disrespectful in any way I am going to just leave. They are not the ones who are prescribing my pain medication so I really have no reason to take any disrespect from them. I don't think my primary doctor that gave me the referral to go there would get upset with me. I am pretty sure he would just send me somewhere else.

I have been having a rough past week and a half. My little nephew was born on July 26th. I of course was in a rush to get to the hospital to be with my sister while she was in labor I just grabbed about 20 of my oxycodone and threw them in a extra bottle. Really Stupid!. While I thought my stuff was being "baby sat" in the waiting room it was not. My other family members did not know that I had left my backpack with my purse in there. Someone ( I am pretty sure it was the daddys sister) ripped off all but 3 of my pills. I am taking 100% responsibility and lesson learned.
The reason I am thinking it was the daddys sister is because she walked into my sisters house the day she got home after having an Emergency C-Section and asked her if she could have her pain pills.
Who asks a woman who has just had a C-Section if they can have their pain pills?

Anyway that's what's going on with me. I hope you all have had an easier time. I go to my regular Dr. on Friday so I only have to get through this next few days and I get my refill.

 
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Re: Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

Yikes! That's badness all around! Was this doc the only one your doc could refer you to?

 
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Yikes! That's badness all around! Was this doc the only one your doc could refer you to?
I chickened out and didn't go. I was reading some stories on here and I got scared that since I am spacing out my Oxycodone and not taking them 4 times a day that if they decided to do a drug test on me that the right amounts wouldn't show up.

I rescheduled for next Monday. I have not asked my primary if they were the only ones. I didn't want to "rock the boat" so to say. I thought I would give it a try for one appointment and then if something went badly I would bring it up with him then.

 
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I chickened out and didn't go. I was reading some stories on here and I got scared that since I am spacing out my Oxycodone and not taking them 4 times a day that if they decided to do a drug test on me that the right amounts wouldn't show up.

I rescheduled for next Monday. I have not asked my primary if they were the only ones. I didn't want to "rock the boat" so to say. I thought I would give it a try for one appointment and then if something went badly I would bring it up with him then.
Well, I would say not to worry about the blood levels. They get many patients that don't stick to their regimes, I'm sure. I know my pain fluctuates from day-to-day and I take less or more depending on that.

I would also say that you shouldn't waste ANY time with a doc your are not comfortable with, and don't worry about concerning your primary. YOU are the patient and client. Just my thoughts!

 
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Re: Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

Misscherrie, don't worry, the only way they can get actual levels is with a blood test and they don't do those just to check if your taking your meds. It's usually done with a urinalysis and that is just to see if the med is in your system. They can't tell how much just that it is or it isn't. It can get a little more complicated depending on if it is just a quick test where it will only show positive if the level is above a certain point. But that really is nothing to worry about.

Plus, the only way they could tell for sure like if you were taking 4 a day vs 1 a day would be to do regular blood tests and then do a variable on your levels based on when the tests are taken and when you take your meds. I do not know of any docs that would pay for this level of testing.

I do agree with being a little hesitant if they have not gotten many good opinions. Except that most of the time people will only fill those out when they are upset. But you have a good plan, if they do not treat you right then walk out. I have wished I had done this a few times myself!

 
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Re: Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

Thank you all for your input. I just got freaked out. I kept playing out all this awful stuff that could happen. I guess I would just feel better going in there confident and knowing I was on my normal regimen of medication. I am not saying I am being rational at all. lol

 
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Misscherrie, don't worry, the only way they can get actual levels is with a blood test and they don't do those just to check if your taking your meds. It's usually done with a urinalysis and that is just to see if the med is in your system. They can't tell how much just that it is or it isn't. It can get a little more complicated depending on if it is just a quick test where it will only show positive if the level is above a certain point. But that really is nothing to worry about.

Plus, the only way they could tell for sure like if you were taking 4 a day vs 1 a day would be to do regular blood tests and then do a variable on your levels based on when the tests are taken and when you take your meds. I do not know of any docs that would pay for this level of testing.

I do agree with being a little hesitant if they have not gotten many good opinions. Except that most of the time people will only fill those out when they are upset. But you have a good plan, if they do not treat you right then walk out. I have wished I had done this a few times myself!

I just wanted to add that if they send the urine out to a lab that uses gas chromatography mass spectometry, they can absolutely tell how much of each medicine you are taking.

If they do a regular dip stick urine test...then that is where it is either a yes or no with everything.

My PM uses the lab testing as many Drs. do. And yes...a blood test can tell detailed levels as well...but I don't know of any Drs. who do that for their patients.

Miss Cherrie....if I am reading your post right...you are taking less than the amount prescribed? This is no big deal at all and all you have to do is tell them this when/if they have you do the test. As well as bring in your pill bottle and they can count how many you have which will add up exactly to what you are taking....

The only time someone would get into trouble is if they were taking "more" than what is prescribed or if someone was taking less and they didn't have the pills to show for it, it would look like they are selling their meds.

You are obviously doing neither of these so you are fine. The nurse usually asks what you have taken in the last 24 hours.

I certainly agree with others in that you shouldn't see a Dr. that you don't get along with....But just realize that what you read online are going to be mostly negatives with anything. People don't come on as much to post about a positive experience. This goes for anything in life. The ratio is about 8 out of 10 negative responses to every 2 that are positive.

So you may just want to go and see for youself. If you don't care for him...then just don't see him again and make an appt. with someone else.

Good luck and keep us posted

 
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I just wanted to add that if they send the urine out to a lab that uses gas chromatography mass spectometry, they can absolutely tell how much of each medicine you are taking.

If they do a regular dip stick urine test...then that is where it is either a yes or no with everything.

My PM uses the lab testing as many Drs. do. And yes...a blood test can tell detailed levels as well...but I don't know of any Drs. who do that for their patients.

Miss Cherrie....if I am reading your post right...you are taking less than the amount prescribed? This is no big deal at all and all you have to do is tell them this when/if they have you do the test. As well as bring in your pill bottle and they can count how many you have which will add up exactly to what you are taking....

The only time someone would get into trouble is if they were taking "more" than what is prescribed or if someone was taking less and they didn't have the pills to show for it, it would look like they are selling their meds.

You are obviously doing neither of these so you are fine. The nurse usually asks what you have taken in the last 24 hours.

I certainly agree with others in that you shouldn't see a Dr. that you don't get along with....But just realize that what you read online are going to be mostly negatives with anything. People don't come on as much to post about a positive experience. This goes for anything in life. The ratio is about 8 out of 10 negative responses to every 2 that are positive.

So you may just want to go and see for youself. If you don't care for him...then just don't see him again and make an appt. with someone else.

Good luck and keep us posted
Yes, I am taking less right now because 20 of my Oxycodone were stolen out of my purse in the hospital waiting room while I was in with my sister during her labor. I thought my grandmother was watching my stuff and she thought I had my stuff with me. So it sat in the waiting room unattended for about an hour. I am pretty sure I know who did it but I don't have proof.

So instead of telling my Dr what happened and raising red flags I just adjusted what I had at home and am dealing with it. I figure it is better to suffer for a while then have my Rx taken away all together. It's my own fault that it happened anyway. I should have been thinking better and grabbed a few days worth instead of a handful. However, I was wrapped up in getting to the hospital quickly.

 
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Yes, I am taking less right now because 20 of my Oxycodone were stolen out of my purse in the hospital waiting room while I was in with my sister during her labor. I thought my grandmother was watching my stuff and she thought I had my stuff with me. So it sat in the waiting room unattended for about an hour. I am pretty sure I know who did it but I don't have proof.

So instead of telling my Dr what happened and raising red flags I just adjusted what I had at home and am dealing with it. I figure it is better to suffer for a while then have my Rx taken away all together. It's my own fault that it happened anyway. I should have been thinking better and grabbed a few days worth instead of a handful. However, I was wrapped up in getting to the hospital quickly.
Ohh....sorry to hear that! I apologize for missing that part....

Then you don't want to possibly go in for the urine test yet as if they ask to count your meds....they will see the missing amount So I would reschedule when your count adds up to what it would have been.

 
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Ohh....sorry to hear that! I apologize for missing that part....

Then you don't want to possibly go in for the urine test yet as if they ask to count your meds....they will see the missing amount So I would reschedule when your count adds up to what it would have been.
Yeah, that's what I figured too. I am due for my refill on Friday so I have my appt then. I figured that is a few good days on my full dose and then I will be OK to go in. I just didn't want to take any chances. Then have the spine doctor report back to my primary and have suspicions everywhere.

 
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Re: Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

If you are seeing this doctor for a consult, not asking them to take over your meds, why would you even need to bring in your meds, why would you expect a UA, etc? If it was me I would treat this like any other doctor visit, not a pain management visit. Even if I was to consult with a new PM doc, if I wasn't asking them to take over my meds, I think have every reason to not bring my meds, tell them I don't see a need to take a UA, and I can't sign a contract as I already have one.

If I later decided to have them take over my meds/contract, at that time I'd do all that stuff. I actually did this once...consult with a doc while I was still under contract (delaying signing the contract; they didn't ask for a UA once I did that), then my next visit after dropping the old contract I did everything at the new doctor.

I agree that they can get an idea of your med levels from a gas chrom mass spec test (over the past few days...not sure if they could tell 3 vs. 4 pills a day though, but they will ask when you took the last one). However, unless it is prescribed to take this med as needed, it would be against some contracts to take less than prescribed, even if you were prepared to bring in the bottle. That is something that should be discussed with the doctor first, before making a dose "change" on your own.

My contract says I am not allowed to change any dose without talking to them first (not just increase). They vary though. If its the first month you are being prescribed this and you find you don't need it all or can't tolerate it all, then that would be something to discuss the next visit. These instructions/quantities are something to clarify with your doctor.

Usually the bottle is clear whether it is 1 as needed every 6 hours or 1 every 6 hours. If it was 1 as needed every 6 hours and you get 4 per day, it would almost be expected that you have extras. Often if they say 1 as needed every 6 hours they would be prescribing less than 4 a day though, as needing 4 per day every day really isn't as needed. Best wishes.
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If you are seeing this doctor for a consult, not asking them to take over your meds, why would you even need to bring in your meds, why would you expect a UA, etc? If it was me I would treat this like any other doctor visit, not a pain management visit. Even if I was to consult with a new PM doc, if I wasn't asking them to take over my meds, I think have every reason to not bring my meds, tell them I don't see a need to take a UA, and I can't sign a contract as I already have one.
As I have already explained, I just got freaked out. I didn't know what was going to happen at the new Dr and I didn't want to give them any reason to be suspicious of me if I declined a UA. I have never had anyone steal medication from me either, so this has been a very stressful week for me. I felt extremely violated and upset. I don't know how to express myself any better then that.

I don't know, I kind of regret making this post now. I really thank those that have been helpful and kind but some of you were kind of "in my face" about my decision to reschedule my appointment. Maybe it's time for me to move on and find another Chronic Pain forum where I am more comfortable.
Thank you to those that have been helpful and sweet. I truly appreciate it.

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Re: Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

Sorry if my post came off in a way which upset you. To me I thought I was adding something helpful to this thread, despite your decision to delay the appointment. By sharing my personal experience I meant to show that I didn't think you had anything to worry about on this first doctor visit, whenever you have it. I of course did not intend to be in your face saying you should have gone. Sometimes forums are tough as you only get the words, not any of the inflection, facial expressions, etc, that can add a lot. This is just the way I post (and speak). I was only trying to help. I should have expanded on my first post making it a bit more personal saying I'm sorry you had to go through the stress of having your meds stolen. Hope your appointment goes well! Best wishes.
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Re: Appointment with the Spine Specialist tomorrow. Crap!

I'm sorry you had your meds stolen and that must be very traumatic, particularly from a relative. I had my first and only experience with stolen meds when I went off to college. I didn't even think anyone would steal, but they did. They stole an entire bottle of Adderall. I had to call the insurance company and they said they'd ok this time and told me to lock them up, particularly in a dorm. Then we called the dr at school who prescribed them and she was really nice and understanding. Said I wasn't the first this happened to.

The people on these forums are really nice and try to be helpful. Sometimes posts just come across a different way they were intended. I hope if you read this, that you'll be comfortable to stay.

 
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