A Letter To A Freind. - Panic Disorders Message Board

ZZTexas · 01-10-2003, 03:36 AM

Wrote this letter to a freind that often vists here thought I mite share it with yall too. I myself had this stuff for 20 years so Iam no Rookie but now I nearly fine this stuff just dont scare me anymore and I can see it with Eyes wide open. Hope this might help some who knows....zztexas

Peace is only a step away.

When you can accept and understand that this stuff is a fear made up in your on mind and then made a pure circle of fear by you by thinking about this stuff 24 hours a day, when you can accept this the fact and not the myths that is made up in our on minds then and only then will you be able to walk away from this stuff and be at peace just like you was the day before you had you first attack.

Accept life and also accept fear but only real fear not fear that was made up by endless thinking something is wrong with you, you have made this endless circle of fear that you are so scard of and you are the only one that can break this circle of fear by accepting the facts and not the myths that is made up in your on mind that you are sick or that somthing is wrong with you. Accept what the professionals tell you that is the Dr's and the many many test you have had run on you and all come back negtive accept these the facts and not the myths made up by yourself that you and I and everybody else that has suffered from this stuff .

What this illness does is robs us of our clear thinking after we have turned it into a CIRCLE OF FEAR that seems endless. In this illness we have done just the oppisite we have accepted the fears as reality and not the facts in our lifes that we are just fine.

The Mind is a powerfull thing, it is a powerfull motor that runs straight and true it makes us who we are. The minds fuel is our thoughts and after so many many many negtive thoughts it startes spit and sputter, our negertive thoughts are like bad fuel and untill we can put good fuel back into our motor with postive thoughts and postive actions the mind will continue to spit and sputter untill you your self do soemthing about it. You train you on mind from the day you are born with postive thoughts, so why not train it with postive nice thoughts again instead of bad fuel negtive thoughts, You are fooling youserlf if you think you cannot over come this ordeal and if you think this what is this it is bad fuel so there you go agian see there got you on that one didnt i aready you are saying no way hell no. If you are caught and taken prisoner in a prison camp and beat and toutured and told over and over and over and over for many many months at a time that this is this and that this is that after a while dont you think your mind is going to finaly give in and you are going to accept this as facts it is called brain washing and you see this is all we have done is brain washed our on selfs into belive that was are sick and doing this by so many many manyyyyyyyyyyyyy negtive thoughts day after day after day after night after night after night you see why you think you want accept Dr's after Dr's test that come back negtive.

All it is, is the way you have retrained you mind to think, so why not retrain it back to the old you with postive thoughts and with facts and not the old brain washed myths that soemthing is wrong with you.

Youare fine noting wrong with you noting at all, you are just caught up in that fake circle of fear that you have come to beive as the truth when it is noting more than a myth made up in your mind by endless thoughts and worry that you are gonna die.

We all gonna die every livein breathing thing noting you can do i can do are the smartest man in the world can do about it, the only differnce between people that suffer with this illness and regular every day people is what, we tend to think every hour of the day about what ourselfs and what is wrong with us and dieing , wereas the normal regular people never even think about it a min a day hahahahaah that is the only differnce between us and them now issnt that silly. I have tired to help here dont know if i did or not might have made it worse i dont know and i have gotton tonge tied a few times tryin to explain my thoughts about this .

see you later zztexas

electriman · 01-11-2003, 06:21 PM

Hey Texas
What you say makes alot of sense. What helped you to overcome your anxiety ?
JC

angel444 · 01-12-2003, 02:53 PM

HI tex.
your words are an inspiration to us all.What you state is so true and we all need to look closely at what is scaring us and keeping us sensitised
you have a great insight to this disorder
your aussie matexxxxxxxxxx

ZZTexas · 01-12-2003, 09:00 PM

Well I tell you. After so many years of this stuff, I got unsacard of it, I relized that it was my on mind making me sick. I relized that if you gonna die you gonna die noting no body can do about it. I read Dr Clarie Weeks books last year and I tell you last year was the worst I have had since i had this stuff 20 years ago. She is abuloulty right when she say you cant fight it you have to ACCEPT IT. I tell you it was a bad bad bad time for me, havent been like that since when it first started 20 years ago. I read these books and I havent drove by myself in close to a year but within a weeks time I was driveing into town yes it felt funny as hell I mean real funny funny enought to casue more panic, and then the unrealty feeling hit well i kept tryin and going and accepting till finaly one day I went and never even thought about things and this was the start of my getting better. I accepted that this stuff was fake made up in my mind and I went on well soon enought when you get out doing again one thing leads to another sucess and the next thing you know you are somewhat back to normal. This stuff happend and you dont even know it is happening each time i went to town i felt like hell but all during that time also it was doing something good to me phycolgical with out me knowing it just like she says each trip brought more and more confidence and this is what it destroys in a person is his self cofendence and before I knew it I was haveing no more depersonalation and the unrealty feelings just left over night and from then on i was fine and doing lots and lots better. I tell you folks when you get house ridden this leads to depression and it leads to all you confendence being taken from you and you dont even know it. This stuff has a mind of its own and it is like a stalker it waits and waits till just the right time to hit you it feeds on your no cofendence and it will come right in the back door and hit you square in the head and you want even know it.

This stuff is like this it feeds on breaking your self cofedence each time you retreat it feeds and this is no differnt from our way of life. If I go to do a bungy jump iam scard to death when i first go to do it but then after i do the first jump boom it aint so bad and my self confedence gains and then the next time i do it bang it brings more self cofendence and the next thing you know you are bungy jumping with out any fear at all folks.

Well this is the excate way Panic and Aniexity works each time you retreat it cuts a knot in you and then you reatreat again and it robs some more of you just like bungy jumping except the excate oppsite it robs you each time you get scard it robs you each time you say no i cant do it.

And thats the way i see this stuff so to get better you have to face it and you have to go do what you think you cant do its hard as hell and may not feel like you are gaining crap but bleive me each time it is building cofencdece in your sub conscious and you dont even know it and this is why people dont continue to go on they think they have gained zelch becaue they dont feel it but in reality you are building self confendence and dont even know it just like i did and then that one day boom i was going and doing and didnt even relize what i was doing till i thought about it hahaahhahahahahaahha.

Iam out of air ahahahha see yall later...........

Amosquito · 01-21-2003, 07:30 PM

Tex and others:

I've been re-reading Claire Weekes' book "Peace From Nervous Suffering" that I've had since I first was diagnosed about 14 years ago.

I'm a bit confused about her method and what I've been doing:

My method: Don't let anxiety beat me, keep doing (FORCING) myself to go to places, events, church, anyplace that there is stimuli, basically. Some days, the anxiety gets better and I feel good due to plowing though it, despite the fear.

Other times, I force myselt through events, even with bad panic/anxiety, and by the end of the day I'm EXHAUSTED in every way from it.

Claire's Method: seems to be "accept the feelings, sensations, anxiousness, and go on." She describes how the housebound "woman" forces herself to do things and says that's not the right way, becuase it makes you focus all the more on the sensations and stuff.

So, my question is, does anyone understand Dr. Weekes' method and think they can describe the difference between how to accept the sensations and how to just push through them???

BTW, *sometimes* I do just let the awful sensations happen and try not to get more upset by them. Easier said than done, but I know this is the ultimae answer. NOT opposed to meds that help, though

THANKS!